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trebleshot · 06-25-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Sorry, but I don't care what the N52 does, my definitive Batman stories are those from Neal Adams, Dick Giordano, Denny O'Neil, and Len Wein in the 70s. Out of all of the Batman stuff I have read over the last 20ish years (started reading Batman comics in the early 90s), the stuff those guys did in the 70s has been by far the best of the best. The most interesting stories, the best artwork, etc. I just wish they would collect everything from the 70s chronologically.

And if that works for you, great. As for me, I don't rate the importance of a character based only on specific bodies of work. That's like me saying Mr. Freeze is the greatest Batman villain ever because I only count his two starring episodes of TAS. Again, that's just my opinion and how I think about things like this.

I also don't state my opinions as facts. Whether that was your intention or not, I don't know. But that's the way it reads, since there's no indication otherwise.

EDIT: And just to be clear, it's perfectly fine for you to have that opinion about Ra's. I've got no problem with that. I just think you might want to choose your words a little more carefully in the future. That's all I'm really saying.

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BTW, I still consider Peter and Gwen to be the definitive Spider-Man couple, NOT MJ.

I would too, if it weren't for the fact that she's dead and MJ is not (in the comics, currently).

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Originally Posted by CMIII

As for Ra's being the most important villain in Batman's Rouges gallery I have to disagree. Chris Nolan made him Important if I name Batman's villain Ra's doesn't appear until after 10 closer to 15 and Talia doesn't even get mentioned (Joker, Penguin, Scarecrow, Bane, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, Riddler, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, Solomon Grundy, Lex Luthor, Catman, Two Face, Ventriloquist I and Dummy, Ra's Al Ghul, Ventriloquist II and Dummy, Calender Man, Clayface, Black Mask, Red Hood, Victor Zazas, Owlman, and Talon

I honestly wouldn't put Lex that high up on a Batman Rogues list, but that whole list is a topic for another thread.

06-25-2013, 10:56 AM	#6383
trebleshot Dark Lord of the 'Ark Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,224	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain Sorry, but I don't care what the N52 does, my definitive Batman stories are those from Neal Adams, Dick Giordano, Denny O'Neil, and Len Wein in the 70s. Out of all of the Batman stuff I have read over the last 20ish years (started reading Batman comics in the early 90s), the stuff those guys did in the 70s has been by far the best of the best. The most interesting stories, the best artwork, etc. I just wish they would collect everything from the 70s chronologically. And if that works for you, great. As for me, I don't rate the importance of a character based only on specific bodies of work. That's like me saying Mr. Freeze is the greatest Batman villain ever because I only count his two starring episodes of TAS. Again, that's just my opinion and how I think about things like this. I also don't state my opinions as facts. Whether that was your intention or not, I don't know. But that's the way it reads, since there's no indication otherwise. EDIT: And just to be clear, it's perfectly fine for you to have that opinion about Ra's. I've got no problem with that. I just think you might want to choose your words a little more carefully in the future. That's all I'm really saying. Quote: BTW, I still consider Peter and Gwen to be the definitive Spider-Man couple, NOT MJ. I would too, if it weren't for the fact that she's dead and MJ is not (in the comics, currently). Quote: Originally Posted by CMIII As for Ra's being the most important villain in Batman's Rouges gallery I have to disagree. Chris Nolan made him Important if I name Batman's villain Ra's doesn't appear until after 10 closer to 15 and Talia doesn't even get mentioned (Joker, Penguin, Scarecrow, Bane, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, Riddler, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, Solomon Grundy, Lex Luthor, Catman, Two Face, Ventriloquist I and Dummy, Ra's Al Ghul, Ventriloquist II and Dummy, Calender Man, Clayface, Black Mask, Red Hood, Victor Zazas, Owlman, and Talon I honestly wouldn't put Lex that high up on a Batman Rogues list, but that whole list is a topic for another thread. __________________ Last edited by trebleshot; 06-25-2013 at 11:01 AM..