[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by 3233rafael

Lol, just because you don't like them doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't like them either. My list stands! Prove me wrong with evidence not words my friend.

See, that's just dismissive right there with no reason. You haven't proven yourself right. It's not about me liking them or not. I never said you weren't allowed your preferences either. I've given examples of how the market clearly shows that very few collectors care about things like the different nameplate or upside-down packaging. The prices just aren't there and that alone proves a lack of a market. I think the people that have to have them get those variants fast and that's that. Even a a lot of MOC collectors don't feel the need to hunt down this stuff.

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Originally Posted by ukmu

We will get a movie figure of The Vision and maybe even a movie variant of comic style. Still isn't the original.... more like a kit car of a classic. Maybe, maybe a new version of him in MI. Nothing will make his value drop and he will one day be the sole $1000 figure of the line in a long enough time line. He is th MU (open anyway) holy grail.. the reissue would not be MU.

NOT TRYING TO PICK A FIGHT.... just my opinion that because something new comes out that the new thing can replace and erase demand for the old thing.... in fact, history tells us it is the opposite. When he is seen on the big screen, demand for the classic COULD go through the roof.

I guarantee you that if MI puts Vision into a wave with the same mold and paint all the MU Visions will be forgotten. It's just math. The amount of people that want one would go way down to only MOC completeists. Even a new mold will make buyers for the past one disappear if it's better. They may never reissue him or make another comic version but i'd bet they will. Hasbro has said repeatedly that they don't make figures for the secondary market. Anything is fair game to get remade or repackaged. I think can't imagine a figure made in the quantity that Vision likely was fetching $1000. There are true vintage figures that are much rarer and don't command that price and those things were made before anyone thought to collect stuff. Modern figures are collected and preserved in far greater numbers.


At the end of the day, it's all about what people are willing to pay. Remember, collectors in general want everything for cheap. They complain about price increases and having to pay $5 for shipping on that figure they can't find. Cheaper wins out and we've seen that with new versions or reissues of everything from DC figures to Transformers (could give dozens of examples). I know if I paid $100 for a figure I wouldn't want to take a loss to sell him later but that happens to people a lot. Remember the phasing Visions that first showed up sold for hundreds of dollars. Then six months later we got that revision case with him, red Warpath, and Dark Ms. Marvel. Basically, at that point the only people trying to protect the higher price are those that own the figure and want to sell it. People that don't have the figure don't see the value anymore unless they are like 3233rafael and there isn't enough of them to sustain demand.

Anyway, it's fun having some healthy debate with you guys about these things.