[Ash from Carolina]

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Originally Posted by Catatronic

And Bay is awesome! Bay's movies are awesome! I've been saying it for decades, you guys don't actually like movies. You're not kids anymore, you don't think like kids anymore, you've lost your imaginations. You're turning into grumpy old men hopelessly clinging to some stuff you used to like a long time ago. You keep hanging around watching movies anyway because you're bored & have nothing better to do. Like it's some kind of weird obligation. You feel you have to watch every new movie released & let us know how much you hated it. As if the world will end if we don't get to hear you bitch about it. Nobody cares about your opinion but you just can't seem to wrap your head around that. You think the universe will cease to exist if you stop posting. You think if you bitch enough you will stop other people from liking it. But it never works that way. Transformers made billions, Bay is still making them, everybody loves them & your bitching & Bay bashing didn't amount to anything. Give it up already! You've lost. It's old & stale now. You need to learn a new tune.

Well the first thing wrong with your statement is that Bay is not directing this film. Bay is only the producer on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and with Bay being busy on Transformers 4 I seriously doubt that Bay had much time to micro manage director Jonathan Liebesman.

Second I hardly think I've lost my imagination or childlike wonder. I watch way too many cartoons and movies that take a serious leap of imagination to make them work. A Hayao Miyazaki film takes a good deal of imagination and child like wonder from the person watching the film if they have any hopes of enjoying the film.

It's like I've had to explain other places, just because you don't like some changes doesn't mean you hate all changes. The new Battlestar Galactica rocked, the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon on Nick is fantastic, Batman Brave and the Bold Aquaman is the best Aquaman ever, the Daniel Craig Bond films have revived Bond for the current world. But all change isn't good change so it's okay for me to love Transformers Prime Starscream and hate live action movie Starscream.

Put I will kind of agree about people not caring. There are some production teams that still strive to make both old and new fans happy but some teams wouldn't give old fans the time of day much less spend a single second worried if old fans will like something or not.

Although I'll disagree about how we've lost. Oh we don't win every war so it might take another 2 or 3 Transformers movies for Bay to run the live action franchise into the ground. But every so often a production team comes along and says we love you guys and we hope you enjoy our film. I mean come on Marvel is doing films loved by the geeks who grew up on comic books so it's not some weird either or thing of you can only make the new people happy or you can only make the old people happy. Plenty of middle ground to make both sides happy if you have the talent to do it.