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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Was Bay credited as character designer in Transformers? Directors don't usually design characters, only approve, so I'm wondering why everyone says the Transformers were designed by him. Bay's not directing this film so I'm even LESS convinced he designed the Turtles.

No, Bay was not credited as character designer on the TF LAMs. I believe that either ILM or the Art Department fulfilled that role. I do believe he had to approve them, though. He may have also made suggestions at various points in the process. Hasbro & Takara also had a hand in the designs, since they had to make toys out of them.

Which makes it even more ironic that people are blaming Bay for the new TMNT designs when he is barely tied to the new movie at all.

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Originally Posted by Paxtin

Movie designs aside, these are horrible looking toys.

Agreed. Hopefully better versions will be available once the full line is revealed. I'd love to get a Raph.

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I often wonder if Jonathan Liebesman actually feels grateful that Bay is taking the heat off him being the actual director behind this reboot?

He's probably thrilled. If the movie's a flop, most blissfully unaware fans will still blame Bay and Lieberman will be able to walk away clean.

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Originally Posted by r3v3n63

Bwa-Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Revenge is MINE at last! All the nay-saying for this movie and line is pretty much how I felt the first time I saw what the cartoon did to a comic series I enjoyed back in the '80's.
With that said I've got no problem with the new designs for the turtles so far, I'll watch the movie and if I am entertained then that's what I will base my opinion on.

I felt the same way back in the early 90's. Of course, that was back during my teenage "fan rage" phase (you know - the time when your opinion is the only one that matters and everyone else is WRONG!).

None of that stuff really bothers me anymore. Either I will like the new movie or I won't, simple as that. As I said above, I'd still like to get a Raph movie figure (he's always been my favorite, with Leo being a close second), but I'm hoping for a better version that the one we've seen in this thread.