[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

They never say her last name in the movie, but it would be a perfect cover for a cat burglar.



I don't think he was "throw in" all that much. Sure, if you only consider Green Goblin to be the green-skinned, purple-wearing, glider-riding psychopath. If, however, you look at Gobby as that guy and Harry, then I think they did a great job at building up the character.

The only one of the three villains that I felt got short-changed was Rhino.

Harry was mostly one-note and they rushed everything about him. The movie just hands all the characters the answers as soon as they think to ask the question. They just don't have time to dedicate to anything other than Peter/Gwen and part of that it having to fit in all the Goblin stuff. They needed an evil and derranged freak to kill Gwen so Oscorp just happened to have all the things he would need to goblin him up in 30 minutes or less. I don't mind them setting up the tech for Vulture and some others to use in the next film as that saves time but they will still need to introduce them all. Harry's story should have ended this movie with him finding the venom. He undergoes a major physical transformation in no time flat and then magically knows how the exo-suit and glider work I'm about 10 seconds? No difficulties using any of the gadgets or weapons, he's just a deadly killer with zero training. Had they set up him finding the armory and playing around with stuff days or weeks earlier the it could have worked.

Of course, all this disregards the fact that his goblin is basically a second personality. The movie avoids saying if it's Harry or if it's a mental break so now you have Harry that was pissed spider-man wouldn't give up that blood but getting the venom is basically the same thing for him so why is he so ticked at the city if all he wanted was to survive?

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

True, but no backstory/build-up or motivation of any kind. He basically sounded and acted like a stereotypical thug for the Russian mafiya. An over-the-top one at that, although that's more due to Giamatti's portrayal than anything.

Rhino is best as a minor character working for someone else. He didn't need much set up or screen time and it seems nearly everyone hated the suit so less was probably more.