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08-29-2014, 05:18 AM
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Galaxy Of Rust
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Joe Moore
Tooling costs, materials used, factory used, and size of the run will all factor into the costs. With Gentle Giant those are fairly small runs of figures, especially compared to the Jakks stuff.
The Jakks stuff also uses a much lighter plastic to keep costs down so that they're more appealing to retailers, which Mattel and Gentle Giant don't do with their collector figures.
I still don't believe Mattel when they say their MOTU figures need to be so expensive. They had the 2002 figures in stores for $7.99. That line failed because they are stupid & they loaded the stores with a billion He-Man & Skeletor variants that NOBODY wanted. Not because of production costs like they want us to believe. Then a year or 2 later they couldn't produce the figures for less than $20. $8 to $20 or $30 in just a year or 2 is total bullshit. Inflation doesn't work that way. NOTHING goes up that high that fast. Bullshit works that way! You can make all the excuses for them you want but I believe they're greedy pricks that are gouging the crap out of their customers. The same goes for Hot Toys & Sideshow. I love how toy collectors believe every line of BS the toy company feeds them & never add good ol shit sucking greed into the equation. Oh these toy companies are good honest folks that only have the customers best interests in mind. They would never do anything dirty, dishonest or underhanded. Oh no sireee!
I know a thing or 2 about pricing. You throw the highest numbers out first. See what sticks. What number are people willing or stupid enough to pay? It has nothing to do with material cost or any of that. You basically pull a number out of a hat & see what people will pay. There's no rhyme or reason to it. Just look at what happened with 12" figures. BBI was making high quality Cy Girls for $19.99. As soon as they started getting popular Sideshow & Hot Toys showed up & jacked the $19.99 price tag up to $150-$200. And detail & quality wasn't that much better. BBI was making high quality clothing, rooted hair & tons of detailed accessories same as Sideshow & Hot Toys. Toy collectors were stupid enough to pay the $200 even though they knew they were being ripped off. And that's all there is to it! They tossed out a ridiculously high number, people were stupid enough to pay, the rest is history. Now 12" figures average around $150 when they used to average $20. There is nothing in between. No gradual rise (inflation). Just a huge jump from $20 to $200 overnight. I was there, I was big into 1/6 figures. I had to quit collecting because Sideshow & Hot Toys made collecting 12" figures cost prohibitive overnight.
Mattel is pulling the same exact thing right now. They're looking at Sideshow, Hot Toys & Gentle Giant saying "Hey! If people are stupid enough to pay those prices for oversized crappy 70's Star Wars figures then why don't we blow up our crappy MOTU figures to 12" & gouge the crap out of the MOTU fans??? They're so hopelessly trapped in nostalgia that they'll pay any price!"
I wish toy collectors would just STOP with that rising oil price urban legend/myth. They just don't want to admit that these toy companies are legal criminals jacking the prices up & robbing them blind. They report earning $$$BILLIONS$$$ for 1 quarter & then piss & moan that their profits are down. Earning billions & then have the balls to complain about it when millions of people are homeless, starving & suffering with horrible minimum wage jobs??? C'mon people! This world is so full of BS am I the only one left that can keep it real?
And you're actually going to play the "tooling" card when we're talking about MOTU? Are you serious? MOTU is all about repainting the same exact figure over & over & over again. Out of all the toy lines out there MOTU has to be the cheapest to produce because the whole line is 1 figure printed a million times in different colors. How the hell can anybody defend Mattel's prices? If we were talking about Hasbro's Transformers it would be a different story. Transformers have millions of tiny parts & except for a few repaints, every figure is a brand new mold. Compare a Transformer to a He-Man figure. Leader class Transformer =$40-$50. Plain boring no detail 12" MOTU figure that reused the same molds over & over again =$80? And I'm the only one calling bullshit on this?
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