[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Robert Englund is definitely at his finest here, but I don't really get why they did not have Kane return as Jason.

To answer your question Dr. Kain, Kane Hodder was originally the first actor contacted to play Jason when casting began, but there were a number of problems from the start. The first problem started with Hodder's physical stature, as he is actually fairly short, but was physically too big. Standing next to Robert, Kane would have actually been shorter than Freddy, which was not the look they were going for. According to Kane, Ronny Yu (the director) wanted his Jason to be a mentally disabled, towering, Frankenstein type, and with Kane's height being a problem, he also felt that Kane's portrayal as Jason in previous movies was too calculated and cartoonish. Yu also claimed that he wanted an actor with "more expressive eyes." Depending on who you believe though, Yu said it was not his entirely his decision to recast Jason, but the studios, and there were claims that Kane wanted too much money, a fact that Kane said was BS. It was a very bitter situation that Kane still holds a grudge with to this very day.

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Originally Posted by kylactus

Freddy v Jason was horrible! Freddy droppin' bows from the top rope like some kind of MMA fighter!?! Jason, who I believe has been clearly established as being able to put this fist through people, can't beat Freddy unconscious in the mortal realm!?! Jason, who is at this point clearly some kind of daemon/zombie/force of nature/unstoppable killing machine can be put down with horse tranquilizer!?! a knife popping the valves on pressurized tanks of... what the hell were those and why were they, and some kind of rock crusher, all of a sudden next to a camp? The whole damn thing felt like someone just wrote down a conversation between two stoners who were debating who would win in a fight. there is literally no "Horror" in the whole thing, just the occasional reference to some way one of the villains killed someone in one of there movies from back when there characters had credibility. It felt more like a parody than cannon to either franchise, plus it was pretty much the death of both series, as they both needed reboots afterwards.

I've always considered FvJ to be a piece of sendoff fan-fiction for the series, rather than the death. Whether you like it or not, it was the highest grossing film in either the Nightmare or Friday series, hardly something that I'd call a killing blow to the franchise. Robert Englund was set to move on from Freddy altogether, and there were plans already in place to reboot Friday the 13th once the franchise's distribution rights went from Paramount/New Line to Michael Bay's company Platinum Dunes. Was it scary? No. But was it goofy and fun? I thought so. Jason going apeshit at the rave still makes me laugh to this very day!

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Friday the 13th Remake - This was the first true Friday the 13th movie I ever saw and it was pretty good. Now that I have seen the others, I still think this is a good one, certainly better than some of the sequels to the original series, but it is heavily flawed. I do not really like this version of Jason as he seemed to be more Leatherface than Jason, taking hostages and overall, acting more human than anything else. The guy who also played Jason sucked when it came to movement. On the other hand, there were some pretty cool death scenes, but most of the characters were unlikable, especially Trent, who makes the rich bitch from VII appear lovable. Overall, I'm going to drop this movie down from my original 7/10 from 2009 and move it to a 6/10. It isn't bad by any means, and it is certainly superior to the Halloween and Nightmare remakes, but it still is pretty subpar compared to the best of the series.

My biggest issues with this movie was something that I mentioned earlier, it seemed as if the director went on a internet chat board to see what should be in a Friday The 13th film, as opposed to making something original and scary with respect to the source material. The board meeting must have went like this: "We got tits, ass, profanity, sex scenes, pot jokes, more pot jokes, token ethnic characters, some more tits, and a big dude in a hockey mask with a machete. Oh...and more pot jokes. And that kid from Supernatural....put it in a blender and out pops a Friday the 13th film. SOLD!" The director went for the ultimate Friday the 13th film by trying to include all the elements that he thought fans would castrate him over if they were not featured in the movie, but instead of creating horror's version of "Watchmen", he ended up creating "Snakes On A Plane" instead.

The movie starts off with a great premise, as we see Jason as a survivalist type who's quite clever and an athletic savant for being basically a preteen adolescent mentally with a pituitary disorder. He's agile, quick on his feet, and doesn't play around. He's also sort of the town's big secret, their boogie man if you will (which is never really touched on...) He steals what he needs to get by, stays hidden and out of sight, and only comes out when his territory is threatened. The great premise though is ruined though about halfway through the film as a Jason, who relies on shortcuts, bursts of speed, underground passages, and tripwires; begins to resort to teleporting around camp like a beefier, deranged version of Nightcrawler in a hockey mask. The first set of kills in the movie were truly scary in how fast and brutal we see such a big man move, only to have it reduced to a bunch of predictable "boo" moments by a phantom who appears out thin air (and always from behind!)

Oh, I forgot to mention...he also comes out when people try to steal his pot crop, because the pot is booby trapped, and those who have actually gotten away with it, he tracks down and kills. Seriously? Is he the resident dealer? With the way the movie keeps coming back to that stupid pot crop in the middle of the forest over and over again, Walter White ain't got nothing on Jason.

The hostage thing just made me shake my head...it was a really shoddy way of trying to bring Jason's mommy issues into the plot, but what made it worse was that the girl looked nothing like Jason's mother, I don't care what her boyfriend told her before she put on the locket. Jason has never taken hostages in the 30 plus years he's been around, and while I applaud the director for trying something different, it comes off as a really weak way to keep a character alive for the finale.

One thing that was really awesome though, was that the remake of "My Bloody Valentine" came out the week before the reboot/remake "Friday" Seeing Jenson Ackles take on Harry Warden the week before watching Jared Padalecki made it feel like it was a two episode special of Supernatural, with Sam and Dean going solo on their own adventures! =)