[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Magneto, Red Skull, and Loki are nowhere near as dangerous or alarming as Thanos or Apocalypse and should be more in the same ring as Baron Zemo and Mister Sinister. They are brilliant schemers but not the individual powerhouses like the rest of those god-like powers or Kang who is not as much of an individual powerhouse as the rest but an unparalleled schemer since time is kinda meaningless to him which keeps him in that highest tier. It is usually the way of Marvel that the X-Men's greatest villain is Apocalypse/Phoenix, the Avengers' is Kang/Ultron, and then Thanos is the typical universal guy.

I had that thought when I was making the list, quite honestly, and did feel that Red Skull's main threat is in his intelligence. He's not a powerhouse like the others in that category. We will have to agree to disagree on Magneto and Loki though. While they are definitely schemers I do believe they represent a very powerful field threat as well, they simply are very good at being bad off field as well, much like Doom.

Magneto especially we are talking about someone who reversed the polarities of the earth's poles, created a planet wide EMP wave and can potentially control anyone's movements due to the iron in their blood. His powers have fluctuated wildly over the course of his history though so that may tie into what level he should be at. But to me it's proof he has the potential for that level of threat, and it's a level that should not be anything but extreme, IMHO.

I do get what you are saying though, compared to Galactus and Dark Phoenix, those two should really be in a level on their own, it's but I cannot justifiably not include Magneto in the same threat level as Thanos, Apocalypse, Kang, Ultron and Doom.

But it's all a matter of opinion, of course.