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Thread: Avengers: Age of Ultron
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Old 05-06-2015, 01:02 PM   #51
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True, but they could have used Falcon to help rescue the civilians at least then, grab someone and drop them off in the rescue boats...that would have been heroic to see.

What was up with BW tron suit? Although it was cool, but still she's stealthy not flashy.
That bit with Falcon they could have done, but it also depends on if he was following another TWS lead or not as mentioned during the dinner party. Considering the military confiscated the SHIELD tech when it was mothballed though, I'm leaning on it was Rhodes who helped Fury get to it and the war machine armor. Which is why no Falcon. Or in simpler terms, during the rush, they may not have had his number or remembered to call him. Rhodes is Air Force after all, now with a much higher clearance thanks to his Iron Patriot days.

Then you also have to consider would his classic TWS suit be more of a liability in such a scenario. No real offensive or defensive measures against that kind of threat, and even with saving people, those Ultron drones are firing lasers and other high powered weaponry at anything that looks like a threat that's trying to stop them. So would he have been a benefit or one more person to watch out for? Especially with 0 training in team-work with the team. Even Rhodes was lacking actual teamwork, but his suits offensive capabilities might outweigh that(plus his suit runs on the same network as Tony's so it's easier for Stark to navigate around as we saw in the film). I'm not looking at this from a film-maker's point of view though on Falcon's lack of usage. I'm looking at that from a strategy point of view and circumstance.

From a film-maker's point of view, the amount of material that's ripe with Falcon getting new gear that needs to be field tested would yield at least 10 minutes of content you wouldn't want to cut, which with the overabundant run time as it is, would be best served to use elsewhere. Especially so it's not overshadowed by everything else or coming randomly out of the blue from nowhere. At that point you'd be throwing stuff randomly at the audience and then wondering why they got lost with everything happening on screen. As it was, there already are complaints of favorite team characters not having enough screen time. Black Widow especially has been getting an abnormal amount of flack for her appearance in the movie as being mostly superfluous outside of 2 scenes. There are also complaints of her being relegated to love interest and damsel in distress. Not saying I agree with the complaints considering she was the pivotal character at key points of the movie, but the screen time is spread pretty thin among them all, making it hard to fit more in. Even Vision's characterization was hastened up by using Mjolnir as a plot device to show he was worthy and a hero. The film was pretty packed as it was, and honestly may have been served better with a longer run time. Maybe we'll get an extended cut when it hits DVD.

As for BW's suit. It's her avengers suit. Not her spec-ops stealth suit. Also there's a scene during the truck chase that kind of shows how that comes in handy. The only reason she could see in the back of the truck to get the chamber out to the quinjet(the RvB nod!) was because of her suit. You'd think it would have a light adjuster on it though so she can turn it off when on mission if stealth is needed.

Personally, I kind of view it like cap's two suits. He has his shield spy suit that's more dark blues, and then he has his bright red, white and blue suit for the avengers. Widow seems to follow a similar pattern. A more flashy suit for when with the team to essentially show 'hey, I'm a hero trying to save people, look for the bright colors!' and a more subdued stealth costume when it's needed for those kinds of missions. The team missions use the bright neon suit to show that element of she's part of a team to strike fear in others or so that those needing to be rescued can see her, whereas the stealth suit is when she doesn't want to be noticed at all. The Hydra assault for example was kind of a media statement by the Avengers after the fall of SHIELD. So a more flashy appearance would be needed.

Her original suit was also one of the many shield uniforms more or less too. So they kinda did need to give her a slightly more original look in comparison, but they can't exactly drift far from her costume because that pretty much is widow's costume. I'm guessing director/designer-wise that was the easiest way to provide that difference in a blatant manner.

On the other complaints front:
This is a major one that I can't find any argument against that makes sense.
Why two characters with Romani-Jewish heritage would be working for a group that was formerly Nazis. Even considering propaganda and other American foreign affairs involvement scenarios/symbolism. That really does seem like something that's highly questionable.
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