[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by kylactus

yeah thor should go pass that thing around the pediatric cancer ward at Shriners. As far as the current writers at marvel and there "fresh" ideas, there basically plagiarizing themselves at this point, I mean ok, having one major hero off the board and having some zany fill in for a couple issues (Bucky cap, female Hawkeye) every once and a while is comics 101, but in the span of a couple years making everyone black, female or gay is a little unbelievable plus I feel like by saying "look everyone Cap and Spidey are now black so check em out" they ultimately neglect great black characters. When was the last time you've seen Blade or Black Panther, or Luke Cage, or Bishop or War Machine...(although last I heard there was like nothing left of Jim Rhodes inside the suit) in anything? its like the real black heroes are being buried, and black versions of Flagship heroes are being poorly written in. it makes no sense to me, personally if they did some good bade stuff, or a Heroes for Hire re-launch, I'd be a Marvel reader again for sure.

Those titles couldn't stay above the 20k threshold. I was a reader on Thunderbolts where Cage was at, and a reader of War Machine's titles too. The sales on all the titles you mentioned though barely stayed at 20k sales. And that's the line for cancellation. These new initiatives have stayed well above that.

Also, Kate Bishop Hawkeye is better than Clint Barton Hawkeye.

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

What was the point of making Thor unworthy at all if they're going with that plan? How is it possible that he has no knowledge of the universes colliding in the future as the All Father, despite them making it a point to verify that King Thor is indeed the same Odinson the main 616 continuity? Not everything Marvel does/allows their writers to do makes sense is what I'm getting at.

I seriously doubt Marvel will shoot themselves in the foot with the end game you fear they're planning though. They will catch so much shit if the entire arc served as a vessel to further Odinson's story and make him worthy again, especially if they kill her (I believe morons call that fridging, but only care when its a female character). We're in an era where Marvel allowed a writer to completely change an established character's costume just because the internet exploded after they let an artist known for erotic art draw her in pose that the public deemed "sexist and objectifying."

The only outcome I see is her coming out of the arc alive and well, one way or another.

Marvel has a history of taking cancer stories very seriously. It's one of the few things that if a character gets it, they tend to not survive. Even the original Captain Marvel couldn't beat it. Though that does bring up an interesting point about diversity. It is actually really cool for kids and even adults that have cancer to read about a hero like Thor and what she does even with cancer. Yeah, it is called 'women in refridgerators' as named after Alex in Green Lantern. And it is a valid point about treatment of female characters.

That's why I think they may keep the hammer away from thor even after if she dies from it. But the valhalla aspect does seem like something they'd want to explore.

It's comic books. No one stays dead except uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.

Spider-woman has had the same costume since her debut years ago. She needed a new costume. The fact that it's actually designed to fit with her title's more spy-like stories and have form to function is actually a really nice touch. Spider-man has gone through several costumes since his debut, and you're complaining that Jessica Drew finally got one?

And yeah, the internet did have an uproar about how Spider-woman was depicted on that cover. With good reason too. That was some Liefeld level art perspective stuff going on in it.

Speaking of which, we need Spider-woman's new costume as a figure, Spider-Gwen, and Silk.