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Originally Posted by kylactus

yeah, and Azezil (I know it's misspelled, I don't speak Aramaic) was a better Bat Man, the problem was He wasn't Bat Man! These characters aren't popular because they change who they are every time society has a change of opinion. ultimately everything will work itself out, the original characters will go back to themselves, because that's who they are, until some jackass writer is going to "make his mark" and flips everything up and pisses off die hard fans, but that's ok, because every few decades we get a damn good writer that can pick up the pieces, un-write the last decade and move the story forward in a natural way, and allow Hasbro to sell us the same Cap packaged ten different ways.

Um, Kate Bishop has had some amazing stories as Hawkeye, and has been extremely popular. Like more so popular than Clint ever was even with his appearance in the Avengers movie. So much that she may be appearing in the MCU.

Personally, I like the aspect that the Marvel universe is growing and aging now. Instead of retrofitting origins every 10-20 years to be updated, now they can actually have the Marvel universe expand and the mantles carry on. Things that don't adapt with the times and evolve, die off. Sales slump. People get bored with it. These changes have turned what were titles that were starting to slump back into titles that people read regularly and are bringing in new audiences that may have never touched the comics before. A frozen universe that never changes is a boring read. A soap opera universe though where anything goes and is ever changing and growing brings in curious readers. Now how good the stories are and how well it's written, that's what keeps them. If they lose 10 die hards, but gain 100 new readers that stay with the title, I think that trade off is entirely fine with them. So far, that's what's happening. The changes are bringing in readers and keeping them. New Thor's numbers have consistently stayed above old Thor's numbers. Hawkeye that features both Kate Bishop and Clint Barton has been selling better than Hawkeye ever has in the past. The word of mouth on Hawkeye in particular has been nonstop praise too.

Do you mean Jean Paul Valley from Knightfall in the 90s or the more recent Batman inc thing?

Also, if they approach the Valhalla aspect of Jane Foster, and dive into her journey to becoming another hero from her experiences as Thor, it won't be women in fridge syndrome. It'll actually be about her character development and journey into a new hero identity and maybe even a force that outmatches Thor, like how Odin's own wife actually outmatches him. As long as it's not solely to further his character but is about furthering hers, it's not 'women in fridge' syndrome. Marvel's never been afraid of courting controversy for the sake of a good story. And there are some developments in that path that could prove insightful and interesting.

But maybe that's me. I like the aspect that in the future you can look back at comics and say "this is where it started, and this is where we are now" and have them be two completely different points because of character growth and story twists and turns. When characters never change and stay the same, you have no real growth. You have point A back to point A again because of a fear of change. What they need is point A to point B to point C all the way to the end of the alphabet to the point you have to start doubling up letters to continue going.

I look forward to seeing where Marvel takes us next, and along with the ride, we're getting new characters, new designs, and all sorts of potential for cool new figures that let kids play as a hero that they can imagine themselves in the shoes of. Why can't a black kid want to be spider-man or Captain America? Why do they have to be relegated to only certain characters and told "no, these are only for you? Those others are for white kids." Even James Rhodes was Ironman for a time. Why can't a woman with cancer be Thor? Miss America started out back in the 30s as a blonde white woman, and now she's a Latina that's even more known and loved than the original was(Miss America Chavez and another figure that needs to be made).

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Originally Posted by kylactus

I only know what I read in the Marvel encyclopedia, and the back of the Comic modern War Machine from the IM2 line. from what I understand, he got blown up and only his brain, and part of his face were salvageable, and he gets all robo coped into a war machine suit, that also has machine Mans powers of absorbing and melding with tec. but the last I saw he was running a group of government run sentinels.

That's since changed. Rhodes got his body back. Faked his death, became Ironman again for a bit. Then went on to become the new Iron Patriot. And now I'm not sure where he's at, but they also introduced more of his family and have left some interesting story developments open with them for exploration later. Like his niece that kept tinkering with the Iron patriot suit that I really hope they come back to and let her develop into her own Iron hero identity.