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Thread: New Marvel 3.75" Appreciation Thread
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:37 PM   #18476
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Originally Posted by Madame Warlock View Post
like you say your problem is one thing but then you go on to reveal a lot of really socially regressive leanings...

I don't think it's lazy storytelling. It's a soft reboot, like New 52 except done sort of right.

The fact is that most of these characters have been around since the 60s/70s and unfortunately things were a lot less progressive than they are nowadays. A lot of groups got shut out of feeling like they could be heroes too, and that's really hurtful. The movies are largely white dude fests, which isn't a lot of fun for someone like me who wants to see She Hulk, or Kamala Khan, or Wasp, or god forbid a character who's queer like me(Valkyrie? Idk, not that many queer characters in Marvel really esp. outside of X-verse).

It's not about offending people. It's about making sure that as many people as possible. Plus, it helps keep things fresh and interesting and gives you more archetypes, character histories etc. to draw from. Ms. Marvel/Kamala Khan is a great example of that. It wouldn't be the same comic if she wasn't Muslim, even if her being Muslim isn't really the central point of it. There's no reason why we should only pander to straight white cis dudes.

Writing it off as "offence" thing is deeply disrespectful towards everyone like me. I honestly don't feel comfortable hearing the term PC at all and would appreciate you didn't use it. It's not because I'm somehow oversensitive, it's because i have a long history of bullying, abuse and even violence that couldn't imagine. I've dealt with a lot more than most people. And I think I deserve more respect than to be treated like a whiny baby, which tbh describes most entitled white dude geeks more accurately anyway.

When you complain about PC what you're really saying is "I don't respect you as a human being in the slightest." You're saying you don't care about other people's struggles, or don't want to hear about them. You're writing off equality as part of some liberal conspiracy rather than a very real need for a lot of people.

We need to call a spade a spade and not pretending that this sort of thing is a cute opinion - it's not. It's malice. And I would really appreciate if people stopped doing it.
PC is short for politically correct. it's in the dictionary and not "hate speech" look it up. I do respect you, I think your customs are awesome. as a fellow collector I'm sure we have a lot in common. I don't care about other peoples struggles, that's the way it should be! do you give a damn that the straight white male is being constantly cast as the villain in our society? do you "respect" the fact that some people may not like your particular life choices? do you want tolerance, or validation? do you even know the difference? I personally don't have a problem with anyone, or how they choose to live there lives.... my problem is when you feel it's necessary to wear it like a badge of honor, and shove it down my throat. We're all who we are, who the fuck cares!?! I don't give a shit how you dress or who you go home with. but if you were really interested in "furthering your cause" you'd be pushing for Rictor and North star to get better representation, not trying to retcon mainstream characters into being gay (ice man). the same goes for the sex/ race shifts as of late! pressure Marvel to give Blade, Luke Cage, Storm, Val, X-23, Falcon, there own titles! instead it comes off as pathetic that they just borrow a main stays name to further the "diversity" I'm sure whatever university you attend has told you that everything in the world is controlled by the "evil straight white man" but trust me no one's out to get you, we're all cool here, and just like you precious opinion, mine counts too, so next time you want to come at me like I'm anything other than a fan of a fantastic property that has been as of late, shit on by sloppy political correct writing by so called "progressive" ass clowns that aren't worthy to script Ziggy, remember I've been reading Marvel comics since before your mama was letting you choose what color pampers to put on. Trust me we're all being dealt a serious dis service by the current story telling, it will go down in history as a bigger f up than the clone wars.
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