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Exodus · 09-30-2015, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by blastMONKEY

I passed my VI registry and on the way home decided to stop by Toys r Us and found the recent release of MP Starscream. I even had ten dollars in rewards bucks which brought the price down to 49.99 before tax.

That's awesome! He's def the hot seller for sure.

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Originally Posted by Il Cattivo

What a classic score

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

If you are referring to the Walmart MP03 Starscream, the major difference lies in that this version is based off of the MP11 version of the mold, which has a slightly different transformation due to some different molded parts on the figure. The tail fins and side part of the fuselage on the older "Walmart" version are secured to the figure by ball joints on the waist, which fold upwards or hang off the side of a figure, giving the appearance of a "skirt".

On the newer mold, the fins are incorporated into the legs, making for a easier and slightly more streamlined transformation and silhouette. Also, when transformed CORRECTLY, the newer MP11 mold is much more sturdy than it's older MP03 counterpart. (And I cannot stress this enough...many YouTube reviewers STILL cannot transform this figure completely and correctly, despite having several years to figure it out...and it drives me insane.)

There are also a few different molded pieces, such as the panels where the feet fold out, the head (the older figure has a smaller head with interchangeable faces...where the newer head is larger and does not...) and the null rays are on swivel ball joints, where as the older figure's just plugs directly into the arms and is a swivel only.

Here are a few pics showcasing the major differences, as illustrated on the two figures that use the same mold of each version, the Walmart Exclusive Skywarp (which the older MP03 Starscream used) and the SDCC Acid Storm (which uses mold of the newer MP11 SS.)

"skirt" peg on MP03 mold (I modified the transformation on Skywarp to better reflect the newer mold, but you can see where the "skirt" used to plug into the hips...)

No "skirt" peg on newer MP11 mold

"collar" fins on MP03 mold

No "collar" fins on MP11 mold You can also see the swivel pegs on the null rays here.

Feet on MP03 mold

Feet on MP11 mold

All things said, while I haven't picked up the new SS (I have the iGear PP03T Traitor as my Starscream, which is far superior to the Hasbro or Takara versions IMO) the newer TRU figure based on mold alone is the superior version, and is a bit more sturdy and streamlined than the older Walmart exclusive. If you have picked up any of the other seekers put out from TRU and Hasbro these past few years (Thundercracker, Acid Storm, and Sunstorm) you should know what to expect.

PS. Sorry about the dust on Acid Storm. Been a while since I've pulled him off the shelf!

Nice thanks for that I've been wondering what the differences are. I have both versions and picked up the Walscream recently again loose though this time.

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

The only thing bad that I have heard that seems consistent in the reviews of the newer TRU SS, is that the figure itself is starting to show signs of degradation do the the constant use of this mold, as well as the cheaper plastics that Hasbro has been incorporating over the years. Still, even with that, I'd take the newer one over the older Walmart one any day of the week simply because MP03 mold is balls. If I had the cash to drop on the recent Takara Skywarp (which was WAY overpriced), or could even find the igear PP03D (Destroyer) in decent used condition, my old Walmart MP03 mold Skywarp here would be taking a headfirst dive into the trash bin, because he sucks! One of the most frustrating MP figures I've ever owned I tell you...

There's also some bad QC on some of them if you read this thread, but seems like the newer ones that are being found don't have that issue.
TRU Listing for Masterpiece Starscream - Page 267 - TFW2005.com

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Originally Posted by K Dubious

I went a bit crazy with the target sale today. I got the entire HB wave for $13.09 each after tax.

Just a buck cheaper then the MI figures sheesh, great score!

09-30-2015, 09:43 AM	#23551
Exodus Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 8,534	Quote: Originally Posted by blastMONKEY I passed my VI registry and on the way home decided to stop by Toys r Us and found the recent release of MP Starscream. I even had ten dollars in rewards bucks which brought the price down to 49.99 before tax. That's awesome! He's def the hot seller for sure. Quote: Originally Posted by Il Cattivo What a classic score Quote: Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic If you are referring to the Walmart MP03 Starscream, the major difference lies in that this version is based off of the MP11 version of the mold, which has a slightly different transformation due to some different molded parts on the figure. The tail fins and side part of the fuselage on the older "Walmart" version are secured to the figure by ball joints on the waist, which fold upwards or hang off the side of a figure, giving the appearance of a "skirt". On the newer mold, the fins are incorporated into the legs, making for a easier and slightly more streamlined transformation and silhouette. Also, when transformed CORRECTLY, the newer MP11 mold is much more sturdy than it's older MP03 counterpart. (And I cannot stress this enough...many YouTube reviewers STILL* cannot transform this figure completely and correctly, despite having several years to figure it out...and it drives me insane.)* There are also a few different molded pieces, such as the panels where the feet fold out, the head (the older figure has a smaller head with interchangeable faces...where the newer head is larger and does not...) and the null rays are on swivel ball joints, where as the older figure's just plugs directly into the arms and is a swivel only. Here are a few pics showcasing the major differences, as illustrated on the two figures that use the same mold of each version, the Walmart Exclusive Skywarp (which the older MP03 Starscream used) and the SDCC Acid Storm (which uses mold of the newer MP11 SS.) "skirt" peg on MP03 mold (I modified the transformation on Skywarp to better reflect the newer mold, but you can see where the "skirt" used to plug into the hips...) No "skirt" peg on newer MP11 mold "collar" fins on MP03 mold No "collar" fins on MP11 mold You can also see the swivel pegs on the null rays here. Feet on MP03 mold Feet on MP11 mold All things said, while I haven't picked up the new SS (I have the iGear PP03T Traitor as my Starscream, which is far superior to the Hasbro or Takara versions IMO) the newer TRU figure based on mold alone is the superior version, and is a bit more sturdy and streamlined than the older Walmart exclusive. If you have picked up any of the other seekers put out from TRU and Hasbro these past few years (Thundercracker, Acid Storm, and Sunstorm) you should know what to expect. PS. Sorry about the dust on Acid Storm. Been a while since I've pulled him off the shelf! Nice thanks for that I've been wondering what the differences are. I have both versions and picked up the Walscream recently again loose though this time. Quote: Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic The only thing bad that I have heard that seems consistent in the reviews of the newer TRU SS, is that the figure itself is starting to show signs of degradation do the the constant use of this mold, as well as the cheaper plastics that Hasbro has been incorporating over the years. Still, even with that, I'd take the newer one over the older Walmart one any day of the week simply because MP03 mold is balls. If I had the cash to drop on the recent Takara Skywarp (which was WAY overpriced), or could even find the igear PP03D (Destroyer) in decent used condition, my old Walmart MP03 mold Skywarp here would be taking a headfirst dive into the trash bin, because he sucks! One of the most frustrating MP figures I've ever owned I tell you... There's also some bad QC on some of them if you read this thread, but seems like the newer ones that are being found don't have that issue. TRU Listing for Masterpiece Starscream - Page 267 - TFW2005.com Quote: Originally Posted by K Dubious I went a bit crazy with the target sale today. I got the entire HB wave for $13.09 each after tax. Just a buck cheaper then the MI figures sheesh, great score! Last edited by Exodus; 09-30-2015 at 09:45 AM..