[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Kirathis

@Phantomcrow & @TBM

I really need to go back and read the older cosmic stuff. I never read it during the days of Binary or most of those Heralds. That being said....I will still back you both for those and hope that (continuing to beat the dead horse...seriously this thing is glue by now) my DnA Guardians come along for the ride.

As for FF, I'm cool with that too simply since that unlocks more Skrulls and what not...oh and TBM needs another Silver Surfer LOL! Speaking of, what would you think of the pizza Spidey buck for Surfer? I prefer the leaner swimmer physique Surfer and that buck would work well for surfing poses.

Thank you for reminding me that we have gone far too long without discussing a new SURFER! Here. We. Go.

My iconic artists for Silver Surfer are Jack 'King' Kirby, John Buscema, and Ron Lim. All of these artists captured what I believe to be the best look for Surfer. My recollections of King Kirby's version of the Silver Surfer, while surely no 'Thor', was of a broad shouldered and thickly corded/muscled body type. Norrin definitely seemed larger than the Human Torch, who in my opinion, is closer in size to Spider-Man. John Buscema's rendition of Marvel's sentinel of the spaceways ushered in a thinner version that may capture more of the look to which you alluded. That's said, Surfer shared the same physique that the Buscema family used for Iron Man and Vision body-types: not ripped nor enormous, but imposing and larger than average. Ron Lim's run on Surfer, which created iconic looks for both Surfer and Thanos, featured Mr. Radd as a combination of King Kirby's and John Buscema's take on the hero. Lim's Surfer was highly vascular, corded, and graceful looking all at once. I'm not suggesting that Surfer hasn't been depicted as a lithe figure within comics (John Byrne had a great take, although slightly 'gaunt-Surfer'), I'm simply stating that he was initially portrayed as otherwise and has been depicted as imposing (if not overwhelming) in equal measure.

With my (note the use of "my": these are subjective takes not absolutes) 'look' out of the way, I'll now address the proper buck. Let me start by saying that I LOVE Pizza Spidey. He represents Spidey in my favorite incarnation: Spider-Man who is no longer a teen, with the fully formed and filled out physique of an athletic post-college aged male. If you look at John Romita Jr illustrations of Spidey circa the 80's (the height of his work on Spidey IMO), you'll see 'Pizza Spidey'. The buck is great and the added shoulder articulation would be wonderful for the Surfer. However, the buck tracks a tad too small. This would be similar (but far from the same given the poor sculpt) to Hasbro's mistake in using that Surfer/Vision/Claw sculpt. The Surfer is not small, petite, or even average in build nor height (although it has become popular to depict him so). Is the Surfer smaller than Daredevil? Is Surfer smaller than Hawkeye? Is the Surfer smaller than Panther? Is the Surfer smaller than Machine Man? Wolverine? Again, the Pizza Spidey buck is hands down one of the best (if not THE best) bucks Hasbro has ever cobbled and I adore it. If Hasbro used Pizza-Spidey for Surfer, it wouldn't be a deal breaker given the shoulder articulation, but I want more...at the very least, that Panther buck.