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Old 11-03-2015, 05:47 PM   #454
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I think the story was forced. they should have done a young Jason being tormented by freddy thus damaging his psyche and making the twisted guy we know and love. in stead we got a series of WWE style brawls between an old big guy, and a skinny old guy. assisted by over the top plod devices like the famous flying oxygen containers. not to mention, Jason's afraid to drown!?! since when? he chills in the water half the time, he gets submerged at the end of half his movies, and comes back! but now he's afraid to drown? I wish they played the long game and set it up for sequels, other than a 90min psychological thriller of Jason and Freddy's head sitting in Jason's cabin talking about life and working through there issues.
I'd have to respectfully disagree about that idea. Jason's anger stems from the bullying he took as a child from his peers, as well as the eventual murder of his mother by those same peers. Freddy's reign of terror was always isolated to the area he resided, hence his nickname "The Springwood Slasher." Camp Crystal Lake has had two different locations in the movies depending on which one you are watching (due to a bit of missed continuity,) New Jersey (where the first one was filmed), and in Connecticut (where the second one was filmed.) so it wouldn't make sense to have Jason being tormented by Freddy as a child, and made for a better plot device for Freddy to dive into that part of Jason's psyche later in the movie.

As for Jason's sudden fear of water, I don't honestly think Jason was ever afraid of water in the movie. He's undead, can never truly die as his "mother" tells him in the beginning, and he knows it. I think the "fear" Jason experiences is something that is repressed on more of a subconscious level, and comes and goes when he comes into contact with an emotional trigger, the way that many people who suffer from a traumatic experience (such as a victim of rape or molestation, or someone suffering from PTSD.) Many function regularly in day to day society, without a memory, however certain sequence of events or contacts with objects can just as easily bring those repressed fears to the forefront.

Now if you mean "forced" as the scenes being written to simply lead us from one encounter to the next, then I cannot argue with that. But that's 90 percent of the slasher genre to begin with. We're there to see bloody kills, and in this case, Freddy and Jason duke it out. However, as far as the story goes in a logical sense, I thought it was alright, as it clearly explained Freddy and Jason's intentions, and how we got there was simple enough and didn't require a 60 minute origin explanation like many movies tend to give us.

Now the torpedo oxygen tank thing was silly, but we've gotten sillier things from both franchises...including Freddy killing someone with a "power glove" and Jason smashing someone repeatedly against a tree while they're in a sleeping bag.

As for sequels, I still think it's possible...but I hope it never happens. Once is enough, and you know that the next time around, they are just going to try to up the ante by making a sort of "Destroy All Monsters" Godzilla type of movie, where it will be the Predator, Chuckie, Ghostface, Ash, Pinhead, that thing from "The Relic", Pumpkinhead, the dolls from "Puppet Master", the Ghoulies, the Gremlins, the Critters, the Spinosaurus, and the ghosts from "Paranormal Activity" all taking on Freddy and Jason.

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