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Thread: New Marvel Legends/6" Appreciation Thread
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Old 02-02-2016, 04:37 PM   #12500
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To me, I don't really care how the character looks so long as they're able to retain the core of the character (with certain exceptions, of course). I've always seen the movies as more of an alternate universe than a straight up adaptation, where the writers and whoever else is involved are allowed to take the concepts presented in their story and rework them to fit a movie.

With Michael B. Jordan as Human Torch, I've been a fan of him since Chronicle and even back then I thought, race aside, he would be a perfect Human Torch (unfortunately, Fan4stic was so bad that they pretty much wasted all of the actors' talents). So I didn't mind him being Human Torch. At the same time, like you and BlueMarvel said, I don't think the characters should deliberately have their races changed for the sake of diversity. At that point, it feels more like you're using "diversity" as a gimmick, and not like you actually believe in it. As a black guy, I agree with the sentiment that we should simply have more black original characters that we can call our own and not try to ride the coattails of a popular superhero.
exactly !!!! and im actually quite shocked i got this type of agreement with alot of you. some people on CV were at war with me stating oh it's because of their color and blah blah blah. it is not of course it's because the character that these actors are portraying JUST DON'T FIT THE LOOK AT ALL to their comicbook counter part that they are portraying....



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Don't forget Kingpin in the DD movie.
I did actually thank you for reminding me. he made a shitty kingpin anyway RIP Micheal duncan clark, just that wasn't a good role for him.





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Time to throw in my 2 cents because this is exactly where I stand. For the most part it would not matter to me if characters in film translations were black, white, male, female, straight gay, etc, so long as those changes did not change the core of who that character was. Example: I would have an issue with Storm or Black Panther being white. I do also feel there are a few characters that are SO iconic that you shouldn't change their looks, but that's a much more limited number: Captain America, Superman, Wolverine and the like.

Maybe part of this is also because I do see the films as a different universe than the comics, so what ever changes make to either character or story is simply an adaptation to that universe. It doesn't bother me when the storylines do not match up with what's in the comics and it doesn't bother me when the character profiles don't either.

Now on the comics, when they randomly decide to change out a portrayal of a character it's a bigger deal. Same universe...though sometimes it makes sense and sometimes it doesn't. I don't like the Captain America change because to me, nobody should be Cap except Steve Rogers, he's just THAT iconic. The She-Thor thing is just ridiculously contrived (given that Thor is a name not a mantel and the still unspecified reason that Thor Thor was "unworthy" of the name, they can't even explain it they just want us to accept it). But when they had Rhodey fill in for Iron Man, it worked well and I think it could with others.

It would be better of course to create new characters of minorities of all types rather than putting them in someone's else shoes, codename wise, but I realize it's a lot harder to sell a brand new character or takes a longer time , and the business side of Marvel likely wants more instant results than what could take years or decades of a new character's appeal to pay off.

To add on the Fantastic Four thing...I haven't seen it, don't intend to, I think it looked absolultely horrific, and the fact they've changed the race of Human Torch has absolutely nothing to do with feeling that way. I did not get the huge uproar over it. I was more concerned with Doom being some blogger hack.
precisely, some are just too iconic and have been a certain look or image for a years that it's just blasphemous to change them in my mind...

I over heard somewhere that there was talks of edris Elba POSSIBLY being James Bond the next movie, while i like him and think he's a pretty good actor, james bond has for decades always been an englishman white male. i was actually in a uproar when Daniel Craig first took over due the fact he has blonde hair and blue eyes....

Once again im a purist i guess and don't like certain changes to be made to characters whom im fond with in movies,comics etc.
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