Integration

Captain Nash · 05-19-2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kylactus

My biggest problem with the x movies, all of them collectively don't add up. There is no attention to continuity, the future past and present are always being jumbled and re written. No one is true to there comic characters, in appearance or personality. Hell in present continuity none of the wolverine movies actually happened, right? The first three X movies were erased by DOFP. Juggernaut, who looked more like Charlie 27, wasn't the professors brother, but mystique is his sister! Which I feel would have come up in conversation in the first three movies at some point! I knew shit was going sideways when wolverine was 6' 2", and Cyclopes who in the films is the most boring non leader ever, was 5'8". The best x men on film as of yet were in the Deadpoool movie.

Truthfully if you ignore the Wolverines Origins movie the continuity can still all fit together (within its own universe, not reflecting on the comics universe as there are definitely differences.) I'm not saying the films are perfect: Last Stand definitely had some bad points to it (the only thing it beats every other film on is its musical score IMO) and Wolverine Origins is pretty much trash except for Sabretooth. But I thought X-Men was strong for its time being a 2000 film, and first of its series, and X2, FC and DOFP are pretty damn strong (FC does not get the praise it deserves usually, though i do wish they hadn't just so nonchalantly disposed of Emma at all, much less between FC and DOFP) The Wolverine was pretty decent as well.

To me it's interesting that for all the badmouthing Singer gets on his movies (well leave his personal life out of this point), the two movies that get the most criticism are two he did not work on. We can hardly fault singer for TLS and WO except for the fact he wasn't there to helm them.

And I get that certain characters have been mistreated in favor of others - Storm, Rogue (past the first two movies) and worst of all Cyclops...not a good thing, he should not have gone out that way in X3, and I get there are changes from the comics, but well, I just look at it as its a different universe. Changes are more acceptable to me than complete abuse of a character.

But to each their own. Personally given that W:O is so bad, and is the screw that flubs up the continuity so badly, it's probably just best to pretend it never happened and not watch it again.

To add, yeah, the Mystique being X's sister thing and not mentioned in X 1-3 does still screw up the continuity..I will give you that one....

Edited for adding some additional thoughts....

05-19-2016, 10:04 AM	#23888
Captain Nash Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 5,464	Quote: Originally Posted by kylactus My biggest problem with the x movies, all of them collectively don't add up. There is no attention to continuity, the future past and present are always being jumbled and re written. No one is true to there comic characters, in appearance or personality. Hell in present continuity none of the wolverine movies actually happened, right? The first three X movies were erased by DOFP. Juggernaut, who looked more like Charlie 27, wasn't the professors brother, but mystique is his sister! Which I feel would have come up in conversation in the first three movies at some point! I knew shit was going sideways when wolverine was 6' 2", and Cyclopes who in the films is the most boring non leader ever, was 5'8". The best x men on film as of yet were in the Deadpoool movie. Truthfully if you ignore the Wolverines Origins movie the continuity can still all fit together (within its own universe, not reflecting on the comics universe as there are definitely differences.) I'm not saying the films are perfect: Last Stand definitely had some bad points to it (the only thing it beats every other film on is its musical score IMO) and Wolverine Origins is pretty much trash except for Sabretooth. But I thought X-Men was strong for its time being a 2000 film, and first of its series, and X2, FC and DOFP are pretty damn strong (FC does not get the praise it deserves usually, though i do wish they hadn't just so nonchalantly disposed of Emma at all, much less between FC and DOFP) The Wolverine was pretty decent as well. To me it's interesting that for all the badmouthing Singer gets on his movies (well leave his personal life out of this point), the two movies that get the most criticism are two he did not work on. We can hardly fault singer for TLS and WO except for the fact he wasn't there to helm them. And I get that certain characters have been mistreated in favor of others - Storm, Rogue (past the first two movies) and worst of all Cyclops...not a good thing, he should not have gone out that way in X3, and I get there are changes from the comics, but well, I just look at it as its a different universe. Changes are more acceptable to me than complete abuse of a character. But to each their own. Personally given that W:O is so bad, and is the screw that flubs up the continuity so badly, it's probably just best to pretend it never happened and not watch it again. To add, yeah, the Mystique being X's sister thing and not mentioned in X 1-3 does still screw up the continuity..I will give you that one.... Edited for adding some additional thoughts.... Last edited by Captain Nash; 05-19-2016 at 10:10 AM..