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Originally Posted by kylactus

All I have to say to sum up my feelings on the whole ball of wax... Silver samurai... Drop the mic.
Oh and why didn't wolverine have an adimantium skeleton and bone claws in DOFP.?
And why did they cut the costume in the suitcase scene?
Or the entire "rough cut" bull shit! Am I suppose to take that as continuity? Oh wait it doesn't matter because we see her in the school for two seconds at the end, so can I assume that x3 never happened? That makes sense because the new beast doesn't look or sound like Kelsey grammar. And if angel was a teen In x3 in the not so distant future, how can he be in 1983? Each movie is good as a stand alone, but trying to piece any logical continuity together in the x-verse requires too many assumptions, no explaination, and a lot of suspense of disbelief.

If you pay attention to the movie, he had new metal claws. I'd assume since they've been fighting sentinels, he managed to get new ones. Bone probably does jack crap to sentinels. That's called a logical leap. DOFP does take place 10-20 years after "The Wolverine." So that's a lot of time of stories not told. The past was the 70s, and in the original timeline, he didn't get the adamantium until late 70s early 80s. Which then DOFP shows where he was captured by the Weapon X project for those events. Granted Stryker is younger in DOFP too.

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Originally Posted by Kernel

I also found it odd that sabretooth and Logan are brothers in XMOW but creed has zero recollection of him in Xmen 1. I get why Logan doesn't remember (adamantium bullet). A lot of inconsistencies that just kinda show how lazy the storytelling is. I kinda wish marvel would get its merry mutants back.

Creed in X-Men 1 has been further mutated in a story we've yet to see that takes place before it. That's probably also why the full different appearance too. He's more animalistic and may not have have full memories. Though he did grab the dog tag in X-men 1, so there was some mild recollection of their connection. He's so animalistic in the first X-Men movie though, he doesn't even really speak any dialog except when Xavier possesses him.

It's hinted at in XMO:W that Creed wouldn't survive the process that gave Wolverine adamantium. So there's a mild allusion to the fact he may have still tried an endurance test at a later point or went to someone else for enhancement. That might be a story yet to come.

The X-Men continuity is a little bit of a mess, and it's also juggling the ripple effect of DOFP now too. So the majority of X1-X3 either didn't happen or happened differently now. The same is true for XMO:W. Only everything before the 70s is still continuity, everything after the 70s is different now with the ripple effects causing births to have happened at different eras as parents met sooner in some cases, possibly later in other cases.

And Deadpool is probably AU entirely. Though it could be argued that it's 10 years after the good future in DOFP.

A large chunk of the issue has to do with the writer change ups, and the director shifts, but Kinsberg is working on aligning it back together and has it flowing better from first class on up. X1-3 aren't continuity anymore anyway with DOFP's altering the time stream. So that was mostly a nod and farewell for those fans of the original. That's assuming it even was the X1-3 timeline though. It also cameo'ed Nate Grey(the mutant that was wandering the outlands). We never had a sinister movie, so there are a bunch of stories of that timeline that were never told as that cameo alone suggests.

Personally, I'd rather Marvel not get the rights back yet. Though if the next film goes onslaught, that might be the merging point for the rights. The problem if Marvel gets the rights back, is that then they'll lean on them over the larger library they've got. The larger library needs the exposure, the X-Men can stay at Fox and they can explore that side unhindered. Though there are some stories I'd love for the rights to get intermingled for (Target X) but some slight revisions make that unneeded too.

It's a toss up. We lose a lot of potential if Marvel integrates them into the MCU, but we also gain some better adaptions too. Galactus and the Fantastic 4 would be interesting over in the MCU, but tbh, the first two movies were a pretty close MCU adaption anyway. If they had followed through with the original Fan4 plan and done the silver surfer prequel, they would have fixed the Galactus cloud issue. Allegedly there was a last minute change to use the shadow because they wanted to save the bigger reveal for the Surfer's standalone movie.

Then the new one leaned heavier on material from the ultimate comics rendition.

The one thing to remember with the X-Men movies though is that the original don't have a set date. It's set to a "not so distant future." The adding historic points in the past ones is what set the dates. So the original X1-x3 can be anywhere from 2006-2030. Though DOFP's future is suggested as 2023.