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Old 05-21-2016, 04:17 PM   #23939
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Creed in X-Men 1 has been further mutated in a story we've yet to see that takes place before it. That's probably also why the full different appearance too. He's more animalistic and may not have have full memories. Though he did grab the dog tag in X-men 1, so there was some mild recollection of their connection. He's so animalistic in the first X-Men movie though, he doesn't even really speak any dialog except when Xavier possesses him.

It's hinted at in XMO:W that Creed wouldn't survive the process that gave Wolverine adamantium. So there's a mild allusion to the fact he may have still tried an endurance test at a later point or went to someone else for enhancement. That might be a story yet to come.

The X-Men continuity is a little bit of a mess, and it's also juggling the ripple effect of DOFP now too. So the majority of X1-X3 either didn't happen or happened differently now. The same is true for XMO:W. Only everything before the 70s is still continuity, everything after the 70s is different now with the ripple effects causing births to have happened at different eras as parents met sooner in some cases, possibly later in other cases.

And Deadpool is probably AU entirely. Though it could be argued that it's 10 years after the good future in DOFP.

A large chunk of the issue has to do with the writer change ups, and the director shifts, but Kinsberg is working on aligning it back together and has it flowing better from first class on up. X1-3 aren't continuity anymore anyway with DOFP's altering the time stream. So that was mostly a nod and farewell for those fans of the original. That's assuming it even was the X1-3 timeline though. It also cameo'ed Nate Grey(the mutant that was wandering the outlands). We never had a sinister movie, so there are a bunch of stories of that timeline that were never told as that cameo alone suggests.

Personally, I'd rather Marvel not get the rights back yet. Though if the next film goes onslaught, that might be the merging point for the rights. The problem if Marvel gets the rights back, is that then they'll lean on them over the larger library they've got. The larger library needs the exposure, the X-Men can stay at Fox and they can explore that side unhindered. Though there are some stories I'd love for the rights to get intermingled for (Target X) but some slight revisions make that unneeded too.

It's a toss up. We lose a lot of potential if Marvel integrates them into the MCU, but we also gain some better adaptions too. Galactus and the Fantastic 4 would be interesting over in the MCU, but tbh, the first two movies were a pretty close MCU adaption anyway. If they had followed through with the original Fan4 plan and done the silver surfer prequel, they would have fixed the Galactus cloud issue. Allegedly there was a last minute change to use the shadow because they wanted to save the bigger reveal for the Surfer's standalone movie.

Then the new one leaned heavier on material from the ultimate comics rendition.

The one thing to remember with the X-Men movies though is that the original don't have a set date. It's set to a "not so distant future." The adding historic points in the past ones is what set the dates. So the original X1-x3 can be anywhere from 2006-2030. Though DOFP's future is suggested as 2023.
You are definitely a good fan that is good at justifying and reconciling continuity issues. I really don't think they put that much thought into these issues unfortunately. Singer banned comic books from the set and just doesn't capture the essence of the Xmen IMO. I guess I grew up reading the comics and watching that awesome 90s animated cartoon, I feel like there is a ton of source material that you could pick and choose from to get some great movies. Instead they kind of try and reinvent the wheel and we wind up with these bizarre versions of the characters (like silver samurai or apocalypse) that just reek of Hollywood's inability to do something fresh and new.

I would love if marvel got the Xmen back. I feel like Sony made 5 spidey movies and it took about 20 minutes of screen time for marvel to get it right. The one thing I would worry about is that marvel studio seems to do 2 movies a year, a big popular one and then later on a smaller character line antman... But they seem to take their time and do things right.
I would love to see marvel studios take on the Xmen.
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