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Thread: New Marvel 3.75" Appreciation Thread
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Old 05-21-2016, 09:44 PM   #23948
olslick
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No, I wouldn't classify my post as me bashing the other team. I feel like I went out of my way to say repeatedly that I don't have any problem with anyone preferring MCU over everything else. Several times, actually. I have no loyalty here besides my fandom of comic books. Everything else is just supplemental for me, so I take it with a grain of salt. I go see all of the movies for the most part. Some I like, others I do not. Simple as that. My only point is that some people, a loud minority of fans continue to go out of their way to bash anything that doesn't fit the mold of the MCU and it really becomes tiresome. They'll point to any hair splitting inconsistency in any movie and cite it as evidence of the the inferiority of anything that isn't a cinematic universe that they seem to see through rose tinted glasses. Pretty straightforward I think.
For example, the costume issue was just brought up again. And this one has always been one of my favorite points of contention because it's an area where DisMarvel would clearly have the upper hand with their ability to synergize with the comics and toys. Everyone hates the drab, black leather X-Men movie costumes because they don't resemble the comic counterparts. But Hawkeye didn't start wearing drab, black leather in the books until the movies needed him to. But somehow that's different enough to not raise the ire of any fanboys. Cap has never worn the boot cuffs and we understand why; because it's kinda silly. No one would expect that in a live action movie. But for some reason Wolverine's yellow spandex doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt. Why would that be except for a ridiculous bias in favor of the movies you like versus the ones you don't like?
And while we're on the topic of costumes, the costumes in Apocalypse look fairly close to the comic versions. You can at least pick up the homages if you were so inclined. And why shouldn't that count? It doesn't seem fair to me use the "trending upward" argument with regards to Spidey but not for the X-Men. But that's the thing isn't it? You ask what characters resemble their comic counterparts besides Magneto and his helmet and I would say Deadpool, Psylocke, Beast, Nightcrawler, Cyclops and Negasomic Teenage Warhead all have pretty spot on comic book looking costumes. But somehow that doesn't count. It's the same old argument from people who don't like Fox X-Men: "they never get it right except when then do." And in the circumstances where they do stick the landing it's chalked up on these forums as some sort of fluke or accident. But they've been making these movies for going on 20 years, and to be sure they've made more good ones than bad ones.
You hear all this gushing over things the MCU has done as though everything they touch is golden. Take Spidey in Civil War for example. The consensus I've heard here over and over again is that it only took DisMarvel 20 minutes to "get him right." What does that mean though? What exactly did they get right? His fighting style? His banter? Cause that was pretty much all there was. He fought in a battle and delivered some solid one liners. Is that really all there is to the seventy year history of the character? What did they "get right" exactly? Cause it sure didn't seem to be aunt May.
But again, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You say there's no possible way we could know that DisMarvel wouldn't handle the characters or source material better, but we're pretty sure they could... But I cited evidence that says they couldn't. Kevin Feige. He did Spider Man 1 and 2 and Civil War and Age of Ultron and the first 3 X-Men movies. What did he do so differently in Civil War versus the first Spider Man that supports the notion that he gets that character so much better now? CGI eyes? SAME GUY. Produced all these movies. Some of them you like, some of them you don't. And while that's okay- everyone is entitled to their opinion, let's just not pretend that they aren't all more similar than we'd like to believe. The vast chasm of difference in quality is not nearly as vast as people want to say. That's all I'm trying to articulate.
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