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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

If you pay attention to the movie, he had new metal claws. I'd assume since they've been fighting sentinels, he managed to get new ones. Bone probably does jack crap to sentinels. That's called a logical leap. DOFP does take place 10-20 years after "The Wolverine." So that's a lot of time of stories not told. The past was the 70s, and in the original timeline, he didn't get the adamantium until late 70s early 80s. Which then DOFP shows where he was captured by the Weapon X project for those events. Granted Stryker is younger in DOFP too.



Creed in X-Men 1 has been further mutated in a story we've yet to see that takes place before it. That's probably also why the full different appearance too. He's more animalistic and may not have have full memories. Though he did grab the dog tag in X-men 1, so there was some mild recollection of their connection. He's so animalistic in the first X-Men movie though, he doesn't even really speak any dialog except when Xavier possesses him.

It's hinted at in XMO:W that Creed wouldn't survive the process that gave Wolverine adamantium. So there's a mild allusion to the fact he may have still tried an endurance test at a later point or went to someone else for enhancement. That might be a story yet to come.

The X-Men continuity is a little bit of a mess, and it's also juggling the ripple effect of DOFP now too. So the majority of X1-X3 either didn't happen or happened differently now. The same is true for XMO:W. Only everything before the 70s is still continuity, everything after the 70s is different now with the ripple effects causing births to have happened at different eras as parents met sooner in some cases, possibly later in other cases.

And Deadpool is probably AU entirely. Though it could be argued that it's 10 years after the good future in DOFP.

A large chunk of the issue has to do with the writer change ups, and the director shifts, but Kinsberg is working on aligning it back together and has it flowing better from first class on up. X1-3 aren't continuity anymore anyway with DOFP's altering the time stream. So that was mostly a nod and farewell for those fans of the original. That's assuming it even was the X1-3 timeline though. It also cameo'ed Nate Grey(the mutant that was wandering the outlands). We never had a sinister movie, so there are a bunch of stories of that timeline that were never told as that cameo alone suggests.

Personally, I'd rather Marvel not get the rights back yet. Though if the next film goes onslaught, that might be the merging point for the rights. The problem if Marvel gets the rights back, is that then they'll lean on them over the larger library they've got. The larger library needs the exposure, the X-Men can stay at Fox and they can explore that side unhindered. Though there are some stories I'd love for the rights to get intermingled for (Target X) but some slight revisions make that unneeded too.

It's a toss up. We lose a lot of potential if Marvel integrates them into the MCU, but we also gain some better adaptions too. Galactus and the Fantastic 4 would be interesting over in the MCU, but tbh, the first two movies were a pretty close MCU adaption anyway. If they had followed through with the original Fan4 plan and done the silver surfer prequel, they would have fixed the Galactus cloud issue. Allegedly there was a last minute change to use the shadow because they wanted to save the bigger reveal for the Surfer's standalone movie.

Then the new one leaned heavier on material from the ultimate comics rendition.

The one thing to remember with the X-Men movies though is that the original don't have a set date. It's set to a "not so distant future." The adding historic points in the past ones is what set the dates. So the original X1-x3 can be anywhere from 2006-2030. Though DOFP's future is suggested as 2023.

Great way to explain everything!

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Originally Posted by snake5289

I honestly don't know which version of Ghost Rider I'd rather see as a Netflix series. My love for the 90s Dan Ketch era knows no bounds but on the other hand the modern Johnny Blaze stuff that dealt with Zadkiel was really solid too. Or they could use the Ultimate version even though it felt a bit like a Spawn/Crow knockoff.

Screw it do whatever you want and I'll watch it a dozen times in a row. But I would ask that Vengeance be involved in some way.

As long as it's not the one driving the car :P I'm fine with JB or DK.

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Originally Posted by MUfan97

Everybody talking about X-men movies, and all I have to say is that Huge Jacked-man better wear that mask before he quits.


And that's mainly because Wolverine is one of the few X-men that I actually like.

Haha that would be awesome!

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Joke all you want, but I gotta say, to me the movie was as good as Civil War but in a different way. Though some of the action scenes could have used some work a little. Bryan Singer seems to not be on the Russo Brothers kind of level for that, but he did try. Other set pieces though, OMFG so good.

It genuinely makes me excited for them to do another X-Men movie. The push for a better comic feeling is definitely there. Even apocalypse was nowhere near as bad as people kept saying it was from the early photos. Though the opening to it does make one wonder how long before the Shi'ar are added to the films.

Apocalypse comes nowhere near Ivan Ooze kind of bad or purple. This film is definitely on par with DOFP, and even outdoes it in spots. They are definitely going more accurate with some changes yes, but about as many changes as the MCU had done to theirs too.

It's been becoming increasingly rare that I recommend films, but if there are only 2 films you see this year in the superhero genre, Civil War and X-Men apocalypse are it. Alex Shipp as Storm was freaking perfect too.

The best way to describe it, this is what the first 3 X-Men movies should have been if they weren't hindered by so much interference and technology constraints of the time. Fox still needs to find their "Russo Brothers" kind of action director, but I've got extreme faith in the production crew and producers now. The film really surprised me on how well handled it was overall.

They might want to consider moving the director of Deadpool itself over to X-Men. Or something. That's kind of my only complaint about the film at all. Singer does some great scenes, and the quicksilver scenes are awesome, but other spots still feel like they are missing something in the action dynamics. It teases and gives some good oomph, but it's not quite there yet in other spots. Really close though. I might be harder to please on that though thanks to RvB and other material I've been immersed in over the years that also blows Marvel out of the water up until they hired the Russos.

Seeing it Thursday myself can't wait.

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Originally Posted by Madame Warlock

Seeing it on Tuesday... kinda depressing though since there's no real X-men merch anymore. my dream would be to get a whole New Mutants line, as I really want a Magik, Karma etc.

Also I really want the new Vision and gamora really bad but not sure how's best to go about getting them... trip to dublin maybe?

Agree, sad no X-Men figures...