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Thread: New Marvel 3.75" Appreciation Thread
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:54 AM   #24010
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I don't have an issue with him being Cap, AS LONG AS, 1. Give him the Super Soldier Serum, 2. Give him THE shield and get rid of the wings. Had they established Cap using that tech when he came out of the ice or as it was made available ( as in when the writer came up with it. ), I wouldn't have an issue with it. Its like Batman refusing to use guns then suddenly using Phasers because someone invented one. Its a character thing, we would adapt in real life because it makes sense, but leave that crap out of my fantasy world and let me be happy for a while.


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Personally I'm glad the didn't do what you said.
Sam Wilson Cap needs to be able to define his captain america as much as Bucky had to define his.

Steve Rogers is the original with super soldier serum. That's his Captain America. Bucky's is the prosthetic armed war vet and all that his history entails. And Sam Wilson's is about freedom. Soaring to new heights on the wings of an eagle. Finding freedom in the skies. Those wings mean a lot in symbolism to what he stands for and means to others. How the ground can no longer shackle him to the dirt. That he's free to soar the skies with freedom.

These aren't pretenders to the names. The names stand for things. Whether it's wolverine, spider-man, thor, or captain america. Each of those names over time have grown into more than simply the person behind the mask.

Wolverine stands for overcoming your past and making your own way in life. Laura Kinney is the perfect namesake to carry on that Legacy. Like I hope someday Gabby takes up the mantle in the far far far future.

Spider-man is about great power means great responsibility. The full body suit (outside the readers who knew who he was of course) always reflected an aspect it could be anyone of any race under that mask. That the point was that he was a kid trying to do what was right with what he was given.

Captain America is literally about representing America. The ideals of the people and what they should stand for. Sometimes even in the face of the government itself. Sometimes that even means redemption as we saw in Bucky's case. Sometimes that means 2nd chances to make wrongs right. (Hydra cap is a bit different. This is the anti-thesis of cap in every way, but it is reflective of society. That there are problems in america still, and hate mongers who thrive. It is one of the wounds of america that's been trying to bleed it dry. I may not like the fact that they are taking a character created to represent all that is good to do this, who has Jewish creators that firmly stood against fascism, but I can understand what they are trying to say about this internal corruption and how it hides in plain sight.)

Thor is about morality of character. They who be worthy to lift the hammer. Whether that's Donald Blake, Thor Odinson, Eric Masterson, Jane Foster, Ororo Munroe, or Dargo Ktor. Thor is the person who can wield the hammer. Whether it's a person from earth or the stars(Beta Ray Bill, who declined the name and gave the hammer back.)

These characters mean more than the singular identity they started with. And I'm glad to see them grow into the myths that they are to such heights their names are carried by others now to further expand what they mean and represent.
Myths grow and evolve with the times, and I'm glad to see Marvel is finally letting their universe grow and evolve. So in 10 years time, 20 years time, even 50 years time, we can see what new world has developed out of it because of this growth. It'd be pretty lame to look back in old age, and see the exact same universe as I had as a kid. That my kids are reading the same characters telling the same stories that only have mild differences, but instead have their own heroes, their own stories that we can share together. That they can come to me and tell me what they love about this new Marvel world, and I can share with them what I read as a kid. That we can mutually create a bond in these characters by recognizing and appreciating the differences for the heroes they need, and the heroes I had as a kid. That they can feel free to tell the stories with the heroes they like and have grown to love as I did. And it'll let me be able to hear what they think without preconceived notions of what Steve Rogers or Logan was. That I'll get the chance to listen to everything they rave about these characters and not already know everything they're saying. That I can genuinely listen and not think "Damn, marvel's still telling that same Tony Stark turns evil story" or "Peter was cloned again?" type stories.
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