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MUfan97 · 06-07-2016, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

You're talking about bigotry though in their reasons why. So logic doesn't really factor into the mentalities.

That being said, it is a constant question that comes up. The fantastic 4 are loved, even celebrated but the X-Men are hated. This theme has come up in the old cartoons before too. The 70s ones I mean. Not sure if they've covered it in recent ones. They also did a version of this argument with JJJ on Spider-man in the toons on why he hates Spider-man but other masked heroes like Captain America are okay.

Even stripping away the fake reasonings, it always boils down to bigotry of some kind that has no logical underlying aspect.

Mutants are hated because they are different. Other superheroes are loved because of whatever reason of "normalcy."

The reasons vary per hero. Ironman built his suit. Captain America is a war hero. The fantastic 4 were because they are scientists that got their powers from cosmic radiation so it's not their fault. Etc. etc. etc.

The arguments are all flawed and always are sourced to some form of rationalization to treat mutants as different. Most of the internal baseline arguments stem from the "evolutionary step" that'd make humans extinct someday, so they fear and hate mutants by nature. Even though mutants aren't actively out to wipe them out knowingly and any mutant could have two human parents. Any child of "humans" could be a mutant. This is the reason why the metaphor worked so well to cover minorities and other oppressed people. It's based around the fear of the unknown and ignorance. Which is why most other heroes don't have to deal with it unless it comes out that they are a mutant. Avengers loosely covered this back with Firestar and Justice too. A little bit with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, but the bigger argument there was that they were former terrorists. It was also briefly touched on in Ultimates because Wasp was a mutant but she kept it secret by saying it was because of Pym's experiments.

I do see the point there, but honestly, X-men feels like a concept that would work best outside of a universe full of super powered beings. Not saying that I don't like them existing out there, but even with this explanation, the logic hole is still present(just not as noticeable).

06-07-2016, 02:35 PM	#24178
MUfan97 Toa of Fire Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: At your mom's house Posts: 1,897	Quote: Originally Posted by Snowflakian You're talking about bigotry though in their reasons why. So logic doesn't really factor into the mentalities. That being said, it is a constant question that comes up. The fantastic 4 are loved, even celebrated but the X-Men are hated. This theme has come up in the old cartoons before too. The 70s ones I mean. Not sure if they've covered it in recent ones. They also did a version of this argument with JJJ on Spider-man in the toons on why he hates Spider-man but other masked heroes like Captain America are okay. Even stripping away the fake reasonings, it always boils down to bigotry of some kind that has no logical underlying aspect. Mutants are hated because they are different. Other superheroes are loved because of whatever reason of "normalcy." The reasons vary per hero. Ironman built his suit. Captain America is a war hero. The fantastic 4 were because they are scientists that got their powers from cosmic radiation so it's not their fault. Etc. etc. etc. The arguments are all flawed and always are sourced to some form of rationalization to treat mutants as different. Most of the internal baseline arguments stem from the "evolutionary step" that'd make humans extinct someday, so they fear and hate mutants by nature. Even though mutants aren't actively out to wipe them out knowingly and any mutant could have two human parents. Any child of "humans" could be a mutant. This is the reason why the metaphor worked so well to cover minorities and other oppressed people. It's based around the fear of the unknown and ignorance. Which is why most other heroes don't have to deal with it unless it comes out that they are a mutant. Avengers loosely covered this back with Firestar and Justice too. A little bit with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, but the bigger argument there was that they were former terrorists. It was also briefly touched on in Ultimates because Wasp was a mutant but she kept it secret by saying it was because of Pym's experiments. I do see the point there, but honestly, X-men feels like a concept that would work best outside of a universe full of super powered beings. Not saying that I don't like them existing out there, but even with this explanation, the logic hole is still present(just not as noticeable). __________________ I was born, I had a good time, I was vaporized by a bomb.