[lordbest]

I prefer diaphragm joints in general, more realistic in my opinion, the human body tends not to rotate and the abs the way ab crunches do. I just worry if we start seeing changes in articulation based on gender it will ultimately result in less articulation in female figures. I don't have a problem with varying the articulation where it suits the figure (Black Series 6" Rey doesn't have double knees but doesn't suffer for it owing to the design). I'd hate to see Icons backslide and end with female characters that have almost no torso articulation from the diaphragm down.
I get the aesthetics argument for female figures, but I'd rather they focus on giving them a high level of articulation, especially since the ab crunches on Harley and Atomica seem very well done, no big gaping holes in their torso.