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Originally Posted by Navaan

but when I see posters here, or the writers of Marvel Toy News, or whatever commentator spout 'Oh, it's for the sh***y 4" line' or 'who cares, should just be 6"', '4" should die,' etc., it feels like we're part of some crazy toy bigotry, and I thought- I would have hoped- the collector community would have been above that.

This is definitely what I'm talking about as part of the problem in the fan community. I have most of those people on block. But we also can't become as bad as them in trying to get the material we want made either.

Except I wouldn't call it jealousy, or even 'silent jealousy.'
Standing up to people spouting hate isn't about jealousy, it's about standing up to people dismissive of your feelings when you do present them politely and the belittling treatment that happens because they're blatant bungholes.

That's not jealousy, that's standing up to bullies.

That's the part I find really problematic with geek culture in general. For a group so based around having been treated as outcasts and ostracized, geeks sure as hell bully others without even thinking about it. The very things they claim to hate, often times they are. Instead of trying to understand where people come from, they attack and harass or insult.

Standing up to perceived injustice and doing so as your favorite heroes would, that often times many learned their moral codes from, is what makes the geek community a community. But the selfishness it turns to in promoting hatred, well, gee, I wonder where Marvel got the idea to turn cap into a hydra agent then. It's a reflection on the political system as well as ourselves.

Calling Dwight Stall names and treating him like crap, when they are actively trying to balance two scales, and finding a way to figure out the best way to do what they need to isn't the best approach. Truth is he'll probably get replaced at some point like Vonner was. That job isn't a permanent one as we've seen.

But the real issue is in the fan communities that ignore each other and try to claim superiority or are dismissive of the real non-insulting complaints of the industry to make it better.

Look at how fast many of us turn to support and help each other still. This is what makes us a community.

So yeah, you can speak for yourself about jealousy, but it's not my issue. My issue is that all sides need to stop acting like spoiled children and start working together. Legends and 3.75'' can work hand in hand as scales. But by acting like we're entitled on either side and the name calling, that's the problem.

I mean ffs, it's not like we're talking about real politics and media issues here. It's not like we're talking about the oppression the media world uses 24/7 to oppress and manipulate audiences and harm women or how celebs use publicist to oppress and harm women & women of color. It's not like we're talking about how men try to manipulate people and then make excuses for it because they think of others as objects not people. These are freaking toys meant for kids and we're freaking adults. Maybe we should act like it.

Not saying names, but there are users that promote these manipulation tactics and perpetuate this hate against their fellow collectors. And these dismissive attitudes and ignoring the feelings of others(or even trying to use this kindness of others by lying to them) has got to go. I've outright got all the users that are like that on ignore for that reason. I see no point in listening to people like that or even caring what they think.

I do agree that I'd like to see the 1:18th scale flourish again, and I think it will. But in the mean time while we're fighting for that, let's not become like what we hate seeing. Don't turn into the bad guys because you're resentful.

These are toys. And it will get better. We will see the characters we want made reach shelves. And the bungholes almost always do make people hate them to the point they get ignored.