[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Kamatayan

Thanks for the advice everyone! I'm going to be following both of your guys' advice. Red, what is that Cobra thug you mentioned?

Also, Snow, thanks for all of the effort into helping out. I'm definitely going the modern Zartan route for the hood now. Although, do you know of a better harness for Piper that fits the one in the picture.

I really wish I could have a cloth cape for him, but there aren't any that I know of that I'd like to use, and I can't make my own. I'm still unsure about what cape to use for him.

Not sure on the harness. Would have to check out the YoJoe database on that. As for capes. I'll look into that more today for ya and see what I can find.

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Originally Posted by MUfan97

Also, whilst it's on my mind, I had a dream last night about making a more proper 3 3/4 inch Multiverse line. In the dream, I was at a convention where they were showing off these awesome two-packs and special sets. Here's what I can name off of the top of my head:

Arrow vs the Flash(Arrow had multiple arrows, Flash had lightning effects)

Supergirl vs Red Tornado

Flash of two worlds(Featuring 90's Live action Flash and the Jay from the end of CW Flash season 2)

Some kind of pack that had Brandon Routh Superman and Atom

1966 Batman and Robin

1966 Batmobile

1989 Batmobile

1978 movie Clark Kent to Superman(Had a Clark Kent with his shirt open, a better looking Chris Reeve Superman than what we already have, and a spinning door base).

And that's it. These were presumably pulled from my mind from ideas that I had for what DCM could've been, but will never be. It was nice to see these ideas in some sort of physical form, even if it was just in my head.

Not a bad lineup, but the problem is it has no longevity. It's too "shot your load and passed out." To put it in simple terms.

I'd prefer they do single carded releases, but if they do two packs they need to pair them up to mainstay and unknown for longer sales.

Arrow and Diggle.

Atom and Felicity.

Hawkwoman and Ramone

Hawkman and Vandal Savage

Flash and Iris West.

Reverse Flash and Wells.

Zoom and earth 3 Jay Garrick.

Reverb and Barry Allen

DeathStorm and Killer Frost

Supergirl and her sister(season finale version) or Aunt.

Red Tornado and Maxwell Lord.

Martian Manhunter and Hank Henshaw.

FireStorm(Ronnie version) and Ronnie.
Firestorm(Jackson version) and Professor Stein.
Jackson and Rip Hunter.
White Canary and Heatwave
Captain Cold and Ray
Etc.
But the other problem with Legends is should you do the BAF as giant Atom/the Savage atomic giant or the Wave Rider ship?

If you do two packs, you want to use a selling mainstay and pair it up with one that could peg warm, except in rare cases where the character may have only had one appearance anyway. Keep them show oriented to their appearance with minimal crossover unless warranted by the episodes. Like Firestorm and Deathstorm have small amounts of episodes, as does Roy Harper(about as many as the Ronnie Firestorm).

This was the main problem with the Movie Multiverse sales. The idea was 2 superman for every 1 Zod sold. But if they two packed them, they could have moved 1 zod to every 1 superman sold.

With stuff like Red Tornado having a stronger market presence now because of Young Justice's toon and Netflix season 3 from re-watches, he has a stronger market potential to lead as a mainstay for his two pack, or as a single carded too.

So you'd want to lean heavier on stuff like that.
My example could use some re-working, it was hastily thrown together really, but they definitely shouldn't do a straight up Arrow vs Flash pack. Yes it'd sell, but that's the problem. Instead of selling 1 unit, you could have sold 2+ since they are both the stars of their respective series and high demand characters. At the very least if they go two packs, they should go all of them as hero and plainclothes. And where a hero identity or plainclothes is close to the hero identity, pair it up to a side character that wouldn't get a release otherwise.

Like Arrow and Ollie.
But then Diggle with removable helmet, and Felicity.

But most of the civ forms wouldn't sell at high numbers except for the support crew of the shows that have no hero identities. Varies per character. Like a standalone Ollie figure wouldn't sell as much as a standalone Barry Allen figure or a Lois and Clark figures can. Ollie by himself doesn't have the same pull isolated like that.

But when you pair it up right, he does.
Like Arrow vs Slade wilson(unmasked)
and then Ollie vs Deathstroke(with mask).



Would definitely love a line that did the TV universe in 4'' scale, but if they do it, I hope they do lean more towards single carded releases or show boxsets that feature full support crew/teammates.

Single carded would be the best though since the line could keep going based on what's added per season, and wouldn't have to worry as much on spoilers. And could filter back in the strong sellers from demand that were lower case ratios early on because of unsure of their numbers for sales initially like they might be hesitant on Iris, Joe, or Felicity early on.