[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by evilekim

Yeah I don't really agree with all of this statement. The loose hips on the part VI aren't even worth comparing to this version. Not even remotely the same. Cartoony paint is a stretch too, considering the original had a very flat(more tan)color with virtually no breakup in tone. Also, "missed opportunity" you're crazy!

I own nearly every Jason figure, I can tell you first hand that this is the definitive Jason figure. The accessories alone will improve your NECA F13 collection, and the paint is pretty damn good. Things like the discolorations in the pants and bloody axe cut make it stand out like it should.
The packaging is stellar, the price is very good, and the mask is killer! YES, THEY GOT THE MASK RIGHT
What else can you say, look at the pics(great pics by the way) The mask alone(IMO) make this figure a great piece.

If you want a killer Jason figure, this is the one to get!

I don't think it's a crazy suggestion at all to say that it's a missed opportunity. There are several little things about this "Ultimate" that bug me. I have no gripes about the accessories, or the mask (especially...because they finally got the size and shape of it correct, and after seeing the prototypes, I was worried they wouldn't...) but the figure itself just left me feeling like the budget for this figure was "sloppy seconds" to the full blown treatments that the Evil Dead and NOES figures have been receiving.

The paints on this figure are bad when compared to the original versions, with skin tones on the arms and neck not matching those on the hands or heads due to the heavy washes on those parts. The blood treatment on the shirt, as well as the head and neck, is okay for the most part, but on the pants, it looks ridiculous...looking more like Jason spilled kool-aid on his leg as opposed to having been stabbed by Christie in the knee. Look at the picture on the inside of the box flap next to the figure tray, and then compare it to the figure, and you'll see what I mean as to how it should look. NECA also failed to paint Jason's white undershirt for some reason, something that was painted on the original releases. It also would have been nice to have an extra outstretched hand for the axe scene finale, as well as an extra gripping hand so he could properly hold the axe and and pitchfork with two hands like the Zombie Jason could. A removable neck piece similar to what NECA did with the T1000 figures would also be awesome like the reviewer stated. I'm reading that not everyone is having the hip issues like my figure did, which means I might have got a bad one, but one thing I will credit is that this one does feel less fragile in my hands and more durable than the previous figures.

I also have nearly every Jason figure out there from NECA, McFarlane, Mezco, as well as a couple of Sideshows, save for the giant sized ones, and when it comes to the definitive version, I still feel it's NECA's bloody Jason from "The Final Chapter," but on that point, it's all just a matter of opinion really. I know that I'm being really nitpicky on the figure...but that's just my passion for the F13 series as a whole (I even named my son after various characters in the series...) but I just want to see Jason treated with the same kind of love that many of NECA's other horror franchises are being treated, and I just don't see it.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Overall, this is a great deal for people who missed the original releases. I'd pick it up but I already have both the regular and battle-damaged figures, which brings me to a question for Trivial Psychic- the new mask is altered from the original release? The eyes look bigger to be sure, but otherwise is it that big of an deal in your opinion? I'm not sure if it would be worth the money to pick up this set and swap out the old masks for the new ones. I'm leaning towards no, because I like the additional gore on the old battle damaged mask, but I know you're a total Jason guy so I'm curious what you think.

And yeah, I have to agree, the paintjob on this one is a noticeable downgrade from the original figure. Definitely more simple and cartoony, and the gore is lessened as well. Also, having the bloody neck really makes the figure look odd when you're displaying it with the non-bloody head/mask. Like Joe said (fun photo shoot, BTW!), they should have modded the figure to allow you to swap necks somehow.

Here's a shot of my original battle-damaged version from back in the day...look at the additional/more realistic blood (especially on the mask) as well as the dirt and grime on his clothing. It looks much better. That said, however, I have to repeat that if you don't have the figures already, this new Ultimate version sure as hell beats blowing EvilBay money.

The mask is WAY different and is a 100 percent improvement. The mask on the older figures was flattened, with the eye sockets being too small, as well as the mask itself. The mask also didn't have the holes drilled out very well on the original release either. NECA has fixed all of those issues, and this for sure looks like the original vacuformed 1950's Detroit Red Wings mask used in the film. Since you asked about the bloody ones, here's a comparison of the two below.



As you can see, in addition to the new size and shape of the mask finally being correct, NECA did do a much better job with it, especially on the bloody version, as it also has a darker weathered color with drybrushing details, as well as the damaged center chevron, which was something the original damaged mask did not. It's a much improved appearance.

Like I mentioned earlier, my passion for the series is forcing me to nitpick, but I'm just being honest. Is this new figure the Ultimate? No...not really. Would I recommend the figure if you don't have one already? Absolutely. Would I recommend the figure even if you have the originals? Again, absolutely. The new weapon additions and mask improvements are great (I love the wrench,) and are all compatible with the original releases if you prefer them, and if you need a Jason to pose and play around with for photos, this is a safe, cheaper (and I feel more durable) alternative to dropping big bucks on the secondary market for the originals. I hope this figure sells well (my local TRU is already sold out of them, so that's a good sign) so that perhaps we can get an Ultimate Baghead, or Roy, or Reboot,...hell...maybe even an Uber Jason in the near future.