TFW2005HisstankThundercatsTokuNationToyark

The Toyark - News - Welcome to The Toyark!

The Chosen Prime
  • Home
  • News
    • Marvel Toy News
    • DC Toy News
    • Star Wars Toy News
    • Video Game Toy News
    • Dragonball Z Toy News
    • MOTU Toy News
    • San Diego Comic Con
    • Toy Fair
    • All News Categories…
  • JUMP OFF!
    • SDCC Round Up
    • S.H.F Dragonball Z
    • Photo Shoots
    • Quick Shots
    • Toy Fair Round Up
    • NYCC Round Up
  • Forum
    • New Posts
    • News and Rumors
    • Action Figure GD
    • Marvel Forum
    • Customs
    • Fan Art
    • Collection Showcase
    • Buy Sell Trade
  • Companies
    • Tamashii Nations
    • McFarlane
    • Hasbro
    • NECA
    • Mezco
    • Super7
    • Mattel
    • Diamond Select Toys
    • Storm Collectibles
    • Hot Toys
    • Sideshow
  • Characters
    • Batman
    • Superman
    • Iron Man
    • Spider-Man
    • Wolverine
    • Hulk
    • Green Lantern
    • Captain America
    • Boba Fett
  • Scale
    • 3.75 Inch
    • 6 Inch
    • 7 Inch
    • 1/6
  • Sub-Lines
    • SH Figuarts
    • DC Multiverse
    • Marvel Legends
    • Black Series
    • One:12 Collective
    • Super 7 Ultimates
    • Vintage Collection
    • Masterverse
    • MOTU Origins
Premium Bandai
Go Back   The Toyark > Toyark Toy Forums
Reload this Page

Integration

Rules Register Community Today's Posts Search
Community Links
Pictures & Albums
Members List
Search Forums
 
Tag Search
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Thread: Why I was/am very disappointed with Neca's Ultimate "Jason Lives" figure
View Single Post
Old 05-23-2017, 12:40 AM   #1
John888481
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 36
I know the figure came out a year and a half ago, but I've been thinking about it recently, and they seriously dropped the ball on this figure.
Neca first revealed their Retro/Mego version of "Friday the 13th- Part 6: Jason Lives" Jason in the winter of 2015. It was the first time they released a Retro version of a Jason before an articulated plastic version. It came out pretty well. After the reveal, lots of fans began asking Neca for a plastic "Ultimate" version of the figure on their Twitter page, and within about five months, the company had one on display at SDCC '15. It was clear from the get-go that this figure didn't measure up to their usual quality. I don't know if it was rushed, or if they had budget issues, but it's a very heavily flawed figure.

Let's start with the mask:

Why I was/am very disappointed with Neca's Ultimate "Jason Lives" figure-jasons.jpg

The mask released with the Retro/Mego version came out pretty good and is generally movie accurate in terms of the shape and cut of it. The eye holes could have been shaped a little better, and the red chevron on the forehead is a little off, but it gets a passing grade. The Ultimate version's mask on the other hand is just an abomination- truly the worst part of the figure.
˚The shape is completely off. It's too ovular, and not round enough.
˚The area over the mouth is flat from the bottom of the nose to the chin and not rounded like the Retro version.
˚The holes that were drilled into the mask are too big, and the ones around the mouth aren't in the right spot at all (particularly the two holes that are supposed to be close to the exposed buttons.)
˚Unlike the Retro version (and every other Jason mask Neca's ever made), the mask has no shading, it's just one mono-tone color. Most figures don't have any shading in the mask straps either (a small minority of them do).
˚The axe wound on the top of the mask is partially carved into the facade of the mask, and isn't even the right shape.
˚The red chevron on the forehead is the same as the Retro, but isn't movie accurate.
˚The shape of the eye holes are the same as the Retro, but they don't quite convey the menacing look depicted in the movie.

I don't know what happened with the mask. As far as the head under the mask, it's easy to tell that Neca took the Retro head and scaled it down in size to fit the 7" Ultimate version. I talked to Randy on the Neca Twitter page once and he told me that they use a 3D Pantograph to convert figures into different scales, so I'm assuming that that's what they did here. The head actually came out very well. It's nicely sculpted and painted with plenty of shading and detail. It looks as good as the Retro version. I don't know what happened when they scaled down the mask from the Retro format to the Ultimate scale though, but something went terribly wrong.

Next I'd like to analyze the shirt/torso.

Why I was/am very disappointed with Neca's Ultimate "Jason Lives" figure-shoulder.jpg

The second thing that leapt out to me was how poorly the shirt piece is molded around the shoulders. Typically these rubber shirts are tight around the shoulder sockets to give the appearance of a smooth transition from the torso to the arms/sleeves. The gap in the shoulder socket is an eye sore, there's no way around it. It's mainly the left shoulder. The right one isn't perfect, but isn't as bad.

The lack of shading in the shirt and pants is another big issue. Without proper shading, the figure looks completely flat and has no character. They also should have filled in the holes in the shirt black.

Why I was/am very disappointed with Neca's Ultimate "Jason Lives" figure-shading.jpg

The Mezco version of this figure was well shaded. Look how much better the paint job on the shirt is with the different shades of green and the subtle dirt stains.

Why I was/am very disappointed with Neca's Ultimate "Jason Lives" figure-cinema-fear-serie-2-jason-voorhees-17-.jpg

The shoes on the Ultimate version also don't have any shading. They look flat and boring compared to the Retro version.

Why I was/am very disappointed with Neca's Ultimate "Jason Lives" figure-shoes.jpg

People may accuse me of knit picking on this one, but it drives me absolutely nuts that they reused the forearms from the Part 3 & 4 Jasons. Those Jasons had short shirt sleeves with exposed wrists. Part 6 Jason had long sleeves that covered his wrists (probably to save the make up department time so they didn't have to paint the actor's wrists like the head).

Why I was/am very disappointed with Neca's Ultimate "Jason Lives" figure-forearms-.jpg

I can see how some people might not think this is a big deal, but it's this level of attention to detail that usually sets Neca apart from other companies. One good example is the fact that Neca's part 3 Jason has different upper arm sculpts than part 4 Jason. Part 3 Jason's upper arms are thicker and more muscular. That's not a trivial detail either. It's things like this that make Neca, Neca. If you're going to sculpt different upper arms for part 3 Jason, why not sculpt longer sleeves for part 6 Jason? When you over-look details like this on a figure, and you do it several times, it adds up and the final product is sub-par.
The fact that the paint job didn't include any shading in the mask, shirt, pants, or shoes makes me think that Neca had some kind of issue that got in their way. What makes them special is that everything they typically release is a labor of love and they go balls out and don't over-look any details. It's hard to believe that they would let so many things go on this without a good reason.
Ultimately, I plan on bringing this to their attention, as I would like to see them rerelease this figure at some point in time and correct the mistakes I've highlighted. I'll include a poll as I'm interested to see what you all think. If enough people agree, I'd like to Tweet it at Neca. They're always receptive to feedback and eager to please their fan base, so maybe it'll get their attention.

Last edited by John888481; 05-23-2017 at 01:09 AM.. Reason: Changed first paragraph
John888481 is offline   Reply With Quote
John888481
View Public Profile
Send a private message to John888481
Find More Posts by John888481
 
Premium Bandai

San Diego Comic Con SH Figuarts Dragon Ball Reference Guide Extreme Sets Dioramas New York Toy Fair Beasts of the Mesozoic
Latest Toy Discussion
 
The "Look At What I Just Got!" Thread
DC Multiverse and all McFarlane DC News Reveals and Chat
Boss Fight Studio News Reveals and Chat
Mezco One:12 Collective, 5 Points & More - News Reveals and Chat
Let's See Some Cool Stuff - ToyArk Edition
Hot Toys, Mondo, Threezero and 1/6th News Reveals and Chat
Mattel Masters of the Unvierse News Reveals and Chat
Marvel Legends News Reveals and Chat
DC 3.75/4" Appreciation Thread
The NECA News Reveals and Chat Thread - Everything NECA
 
Latest Marvel Discussion
 
New Marvel Legends/6" Appreciation Thread
New Marvel 3.75" Appreciation Thread
The Marvel Universe/3.75 Compatability Thread
 
Latest Customs and Fan Art
 
Wolfsbane
Game of death bruce lee
DC Creature Commandos The Bride 7"
XMen
Custom Avengers
 
Latest Collection Pics
 
Spastic for Plastic
My Mixed Collection
My Rotating Figure Display
My Collection/Office Display
 
Latest B/S/T
 
Green ranger helmet for trade in central California
 
The Chosen Prime

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:03 PM.

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS. Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.