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Thread: SDCC 2017 Exclusive Hasbro Revolution Box Set
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:17 PM   #38
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The only thing I'm seeing is a bunch of whiny not!kids complaining that something was changed without giving a valid reason not to change it.
There also wasn't a valid reason to change it, yet changed it was. Also, why 'whine' about them 'whining'? If it doesn't bother you just say so and move on.

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And I'm sorry, but the whole 'lazy name slapping' thing has been around for too long to be a viable argument any more
A valid argument stops being valid because it's old?

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especially when a great number of those 'name-slaps' have grown more popular than the original use of the name. Any peek into the Transformers fiction will show you that.
And if they name change them further down the line then the people who like those iterations will also complain, and on it will go.

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That's because Asian Americans tend to get crapped on in Hollywood. There's no lack of roles for white actors.
Would that be because Asians are what, 5%, 8% - of the US population? I'm pretty sure there's no shortage of great roles for Asians in, say, China, or Japan.

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The irony is that a lotta anime tends to look more american than asian. And thats drawn BY asians.
There is an ongoing argument about that, and how they don't actually look Caucasian at all with their tall thin frames, prominent noses, round different-coloured eyes and different-shaped different-coloured hair. I believe the argument against that is that people 'just don't understand it' and that they aren't Caucasian looking at all because Caucasians don't have blue hair, etc. But I can't recall exactly.

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Because when race doesn't play a factor in the character's persona, it's open for any interpretation.

When race does play a factor to the character nature, it can't be changed.
But that's a bit of a Catch 22 isn't it? Because many non-white characters were (are?) created specifically to deal with issues of race / identity, so identity politics are part of their reason for existing. That means by default you could race switch almost all white characters (who weren't created with racial identity as central to them), but not non-white. However, to show it doesn't always work out that way; in the Thor movie we were supposed to be seeing Asgard, a land based on Norse (Scandinavian) mythology - which was the Scandinavian image of gods based on themselves - yet they didn't have any problem making Heimdall black. Same with the Greek island of Themyscira - multi racial. It genuinely interests me as to whether or not we are going to see a multi-racial Wakanda in the upcoming movie.

However, as an aside, I would be genuinely interested to know what black (or non-white) characters of prominence in the Marvel Universe you would be ok with race-swapping to white. And a couple of prominent white characters who you think couldn't be racially changed. Genuinely curious.

About the toys:

I like the Rom, even though he's flawed. I like the Leoric, although no holograms is a MAJOR letdown, but these are going to be scalped to high hell on eBay so I might pass on them both.

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