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Old 07-18-2017, 08:10 PM   #37
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was Vegas an extension of 3?? or a separate entity??
i REALLY like 4..but don't have much to compare it to because
1. i played so little of 3
and
2. it was so long ago i don't really remember too much
New Vegas was built on most of the same software as 3 so it plays mostly the exact same way but it has no actual connections to the game's story or characters of relevance so you don't need to play 3 to play Vegas and get what's going on. 3 was set in the capital wasteland of America while New Vegas is appropriately set in the Mojave region so there's not much room for the two to be related. For me though Vegas just did about everything better. As previously noted I prefer the western setting and its varied features from the wastes of the Mojave to the vibrant and colorful streets of New Vegas. The companions especially though received a major upgrade for Vegas, 3's companions were mostly uninteresting and except for Fawkes they were pretty much all guaranteed to get killed by a stupid grenade trap you didn't see. Vegas' companions I find overall more intriguing and just generally more rounded as characters in the world, plus they won't die to the same stupid shit as the ones from 3. The story in Vegas is also more open to the player's actions. 3's story was basically just "do you wanna be good or bad?" and the events which followed played out the same for either choice but the end was different. Vegas though let you pick from among several factions to align yourself with and then within each faction you could still be good or bad so the end results actually felt more varied and unique to your choices.

I like 4 a lot as a game but it is the least investing to me as an rpg experience because when you start the game your character is already a formed character with a set story and family. Before you can even choose anything you're either a soldier (male) or a lawyer (female) with a baby boy named Shaun. So my character can be a guy who's supposed to already be a soldier but I can make his strength and endurance each 1 out of 10? Or my character is a woman who already earned a doctorate degree in law but her intelligence can be set to 1 out of 10?! Plus then your character speaks which murders any real sense of roleplaying because there's only one voice per gender so you don't even get to pick a voice to match your character. It also feels like every other conversation your dialog choices are just: yes, angry yes, sarcastic yes, or I'll come back later and pick one of three yes options. I know a lot of games work like that with dialog choices because they want you to make progress in the story but Fallout 4 feels really guilty of it to me. The companions in 4 are pretty good though, I only don't like some of them but those that I like I do genuinely like for varied reasons. Ramble over.
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