[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by Parademon1

I have yet to see actual pics of the figures announced today as I just got outta work. But one thing I am happy about is that the prices on Ebay that the scalpers have been charging for VHTF figures such as the Hydra soldiers, SDCC Luke Cage, Black Bolt & Medusa to name a few, will now drop like a rock as no one is gonna pay em those overpriced amounts they have been asking for these figures the past few yrs.

Classic Deathlok is way overdue as the 1st one by TB was small & lanky. 1st app swim trunks Namor is alos long overdue as the 1st few attempts at classic Namor by both TB/Hasbro have been utter failures. I didn't buy the Walgreens Namor cuz it sports his modern look & I've always been a fan of his 1st app look. I hope they put him on the right buck? Any pics of him out there?

I'm stoked over that classic Mr Fantastic figure! I like the BW with Bike but if the classic vintage version is comic book accurate, that will be my go to Widow purchase. BAF Lizard looks great, I just hope he isn't too large.

As far as the disappointment over the BP wave, I have to ask, is it because of the BP movie trailer that came out and it showed all the MCU Wakanda related characters & none made it in the wave?

Answer truthfully, how many of you here have actually ever read BP comics from the 60's till now? I bet less than 20% of you can say you have. The vast majority of you just know of BP due to his appearance in CW. News flash for you MCU fans, the Panther's list of villians & allies in the comics that are actually popular or relevant is very small. His female bodyguards have hardly ever been a centerpiece for comic stories that I have read. His major arch-villain's list consists of like 3, with Klaw being the most famous followed by Man-Ape & Kilmonger. I would buy all 3 if re-done.

BP to me, has always been an Avenger and then a solo hero. He needs female BGs about as much as he needs suntan lotion while swimming in the Wakandan beach.

BP, Falcon, Deathlok, Luke Cage, Storm, Bishop & WarMachine are 7 all time favorite classic comic superheroes of mine & I want all 7 done in action figure form in their classic duds. But all of them combined don't have as many rogues villians as Ironman, Cap, Spidey or the Hulk have alone. So when I hear people complaining that the BP wave sucks, I ask why? Cuz the MCU actors arent' in it?

Yes and no. The problem is that they showed us a predominantly black cast, which is accurate to the local and the history of Black Panther, and while we know we're obviously going to get a Black Panther figure, the first two figures they have thrown out to us are white males that are not even in the movie. I will admit Namor and Black Panther have had a frenemies relationship for a while so his inclusion may not be completely out of the blue, but Black Bolt beyond being in the New Avengers run has no real connection to Black Panther at all. The problem is compounded when another rumored figure is Iron Man. Said flat out, the wave need more black characters.

For me, they could give us all comic version of the movie characters and I would be happy. I'm not a MCU collector in general so that lack would not bother me much. But I feel like Hasbro isn't giving this movie's line the representation and respect it deserves. Now that's just my opinion and you're welcome to another, but telling us that we don't like the wave because it's not MCU shows a misunderstanding of the actual issue we have. Hopefully this has helped to resolve that.

FWIW yes I have run parts of Black Panther comics, not a completionist but enough that I don't fall into the whole "only know of Black Panther becuase of CW." I think that's selling this community very far short. I dont' think it really matters if someone's read the book either, one doesn't have to have read the books to recognize the problem with the diversity of the wave, just like one doesn't have to be part of a demographic of people (of any color, creed, etc) to understand there are problems that group faces.

I'm also expecting Hasbro may get some mainsteam backlash from this. Which is unfortunate because unlike many situations where an apology and a quick fix will work, you can't do that when it comes to making figures. There is a definite lengthy turnaround time.