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Originally Posted by Panther

A couple of things. First, The Incredible Hulk has and will always be a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Second, as a person who unapologetically loves the first Thor, he was in no way moping in the desert. He was cocky, he was arrogant, and got a very hard lesson in life from his father to prove his worthiness. The scene where you see him "down" is after he finds out he still can't lift the hammer, he believes his father is dead, and he cannot return home. And even after all that, once he's released from SHIELD's custody he is in good spirits because he understands what his father was trying to teach him.

In no way am I bashing your opinion, because film is subjective, but I found the first Thor to be a Shakespearean dream come true. So many positive things came out of that movie.

Yes, Incredible Hulk is technically a part of the MCU, but this was the first crack of Marvel Studios at doing their own Hulk movie without actually doing a Hulk movie is what I meant.

Thor 1 is "Shakespearean" in themes maybe, lots of people here seem to think that, but I don't think that made it automatically good or well performed. Tom Hiddleston obviously is the exception, he's brought Loki to life in a way that might never be topped in any other superhero let alone Marvel movie. But his story is where the comparisons to the great plays of Shakespeare comes to an end.

Chris Hemsworth is fine as Thor, especially in the movies like Ragnarok when he's just playing as regular old Odinson, but the first Thor movie and his portrayal remains flawed. It didn't give me any real reason to buy his apparent transition from cocky jerk to, well, still a cocky jerk but now also a hero. You're right that he didn't mope in the desert the whole movie, because he barely had any reaction at all. He spent two days on Earth with Jane building that poor romance story, then couldn't lift the hammer once, and now because he's stuck on Earth and thinks his father is dead he's so sad now he somehow learned Odin's lesson?

No, really I don't think nearly enough time or effort was done to show why he was unworthy one minute but was worthy again the next other than the plot demanded he needed to be worthy again in other to stop Loki by the end of the movie. Maybe if they had him stuck on Earth a lot longer, maybe even as frail and flawed Donald Blake, searching for months or a year for his hammer and his godhood only to still find out after all his searching that he was still unworthy? But they didn't do that, and without it there ended up being less anguish and suffering in the entire film than even the first twenty minutes of the Doctor Strange movie (which wasn't the greatest MCU movie, either, but I at least could buy into the pain Stephen was going through).

Not to mention a problem that really stands out now was locating the biggest chunk of the film in the middle of nowhere desert America. Not really an exciting place for fantastical living Norse Gods and monsters. Granted it probably had like three times the budget, but Ragnarok exposes how plain the settings of the first two Thor movies really were. There are a nine realms and already a dozen heroes on Earth in the MCU, a character like Thor does a lot better spending some time in places that are elsewhere in the cosmos. In this way we finally have a movie that really feels like it's a true honest to goodness Thor movie.