[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

Black Cat does have her luck manipulation powers though. It doesn't matter how strong you are if you can't land a blow.

I think Felicia was depowered when that particular confrontation took place, but I could be wrong. However you're right....doesn't matter how strong you are if you can't touch your opponent. Ali and Mayweather proved that for years...

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Originally Posted by Parademon1

You ever hear of bad writing? Felicia Hardy, really? Back then, ripping off Spidey's webbing hurt Sabertooth. Back then, Wolvy had to dodge machine gun fire from the Hellfire club guards cuz it could kill him. It once took him 2 months to recover from getting stabbed thru the torso by a Samurai blade. Now he recovers from a Nuke in a few minutes. Back in the early yrs of both characters, they were not portrayed to be the indestructible machines they are now. In a way, I wish they had not been turned into what they are nowadays. So if you're going by the Sabretooth of the late 70s-80s possibly 90s, yeah, BP could probably beat em hand to hand, but modern day Creed, iffy. I always make my Sabretooth & Wolvy have their 80s level powers when they were not indestructible like they are now. It's a total joke at how Wolvy can regenerate from a single drop of blood, don't know if the same applies to Creed or not. Same goes for DP. Makes for boring characters IMO when ya know that no matter how much damage is inflicted on them during a fight, they recover fully from it.

I've heard of bad writing, and I get where you are coming from. I even agree that super hero powers have reached the point of insult to intelligence with the levels they've risen to over the years. Unfortunately though, you end up contradicting yourself through your post. You say the 70's and 80's are full of bad writing because Sabertooth could never be taken down by Felicia Hardy, yet, you pine deep down for the days where heroes and super villains weren't omniscient beings with power levels above 9000, which you elude to having also risen to that level due to bad writing. So...which is it?

If you go by eras, you're probably right. BP would scrub the floor with Sabertooth in the 70's and early 80's just like Iron Fist and Spider-Man did, while now a days, Sabertooth might be the fighting favorite.

Bad writing aside, I will tell you something I do believe in. The upset. I believe in it because as implausible as it may seem, in real life, the underdog can win in a convincing fashion while making their seemingly more powerful opponent look foolish in the process. Ask Mike Tyson, George Foreman or the Golden State Warriors two years ago if they thought their opponents had a chance? Did anyone really think Daniel Larusso would be able overcome Johnny Lawrence after Johhny swept his leg at the All Valley Tournament? Hell no...but he did!

It's why people dropped all that money to watch that McGregor/Mayweather fight. Because who knows what could happen if McGregor lands that one lucky shot?

Comics are no different, as we've seen Punisher beat Wolverine, Venom sending Juggernaut packing and Squirrel Girl defeating both Thanos AND Dr. Doom. It might seem silly, or poorly written, but upsets do happen from time to time and while it might make you groan or roll your eyes, it's part of the fun.