[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

Only thing im hearing that i don't like, is he might not have the large white spider on his chest....

Most likely he won't. The chest logo hasn't been featured in any of the promo art what-so-ever. It's not a game changer to me, as the Venom's spider logo has been changed several times over the years, and the Ultimate Version of the character omitted it altogether for the most part.

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

Its been confirmed no spider symbol...doesnt mean there may not be a symbol, its just not gonna be the classic venom one.

Most likely because Disney probably doesn't want people confusing Venom's spider logo for Spider-Man, most likely so they can use it for themselves when the time becomes convenient. Interesting, because in the past, Sony has always used the Spider-logo to advertise upcoming Spider-Man films.

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Originally Posted by The Heat

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! I'm not feeling this either. Everything from the look to what's likely to be the theme of this movie feels really off to me.

Curious...what feels off about it? What I'm seeing thus far is a retconned origin story with elements taken directly from the Lethal Protector miniseries. Spidey is missing yes (so far we know of,) but Eddie Brock hasn't been the obsessive Spider-Man stalking serial killer for quite a while now.

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Originally Posted by kenm2474

I swear I don't know why companies think they can make a Marvel Movie without being part of the MCU? There is only so far it can go.

Disney has been making their own properties outside of the MCU for a while now. They say it's all connected...but let's get serious.

Apparently, Shield exists as an organization still despite being disbanded in the films years ago. Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Luke Cage and Danny Rand live within spitting distance of Spider-Man and Dr. Strange, but have never met them. I bet you Cloak and Dagger will never run into them, nor will the Runaways. Rand and Stark Industries seem to have no interest in competing with one another, despite both of it's chairmen being stubborn, egotistical philanthropists.

There was a killer twisting people's heads off in season 2 of Jessica Jones, but no one bothered to lift a finger to help her, despite her relationship to the killer being all over the news. Nobody mentions things unless they are extremely vague about it, the Chitauri invading New York is called "The Event", while the Hulk is called "the big green guy". The closest thing to a cameo from any of the Avengers has been a Captain America Marvel Legends figure. The Sanctum Sanctorum is right there in Hell's Kitchen, and no one ever walks by it, and the Avengers Tower is not even featured in the skyline to any of these shows. Who wants to bet that the Defenders doesn't show up to help the Avengers protect New York once Thanos arrives?

You mentioned that you don't know why people make films outside the MCU? They do because you don't need an overarching universe combining it all together to make it successful and entertaining film. Several of the better received and reviewed superhero films of the past few years were all separate, stand alone stories, free of the constraints of a bigger narrative. Deadpool, Wonder Woman, Logan, Days Of Future Past, and to a lesser extent Homecoming all showed that you don't need a dozen films leading up to something to tell a good story. Those films were allowed to weave their own tale, without being ultimately confined to a larger event.

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey

I still don't understand the point of a Venom movie if you have no intention of connecting it to the Spider-Man mythos though. I think a lot of fans (myself included) can't get too invested in a Venom film that we already know isn't relevant to anything.

I'm not a fan of them removing Venom from being intertwined with Spidey in some way either, but the times are changing. As I said, Venom hasn't been a psycho stalking Peter Parker for quite some time now. In fact, some of Brock Venom's best stories in the comics don't even involve Spidey (or involve him minimally.) Lethal Protector, The Madness, Separation Anxiety, Dark Reign: Anti-Venom, and the one shot from New Ways To Live tell terrific Venom stories, devoid of Spidey's presence.

What I see Sony trying to do here (besides trying to capitalize on the R-rated anti-hero fad) is to re-invent things a bit to bring the deeper motivations of the character to a new audience. Think of it like Gotham (a show I don't like personally, but is wildly popular and has it's merits.) Do we really want to see the story of Bruce Wayne becoming Batman...yet again? It's been done a thousand times. Instead, we are getting the story of how the city that made Batman, as well as his rogues gallery, came to be the miserable place that it is.

Same with Venom. We ALL know that Venom started off wanting to kill Spider-Man, but do we remember his motivations for keeping the symbiote around in the first place after he made his peace with Spidey? It's definitely not my Venom (or many other's Venom for that matter) but I'm interested in seeing what kind of new life they can breath into the Eddie Brock character.

Will it make for a compelling movie? Who knows? What I do know is that we've only seen 2 and a half minutes of a likely to be 2 hour film. Life's too short to get so worked up over a movie.