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Originally Posted by evilekim

This show probably should have been titled “Fall of the TMNT” because the only thing rising is a lot of anger and disagreements. There’s a divide that has begun amongst fans, and it’s because of this show. Reminds me of how the Star Wars fanbase has divided itself.

That divide was already showing its head at the CG series. "Purists" were throwing fits about the three toes. Others were wishing failure on the show before it even premiered. Entire tirades were made against the animation about how bad it was before the first episode was even released. People complained they looked like playdoh sculptures.

Then with the first episode, entire areas threw massive fits about the comedic eye usages and sight gags. But the show became a success anyway. To the point it's called one of the best now. But if you followed how many areas talked about it when it first started, you wouldn't know that. There are many that even skipped the series entirely from how badly "fan areas" trashed it. Yet it still was a pretty big success.

Now you get to this, and it's like Nickelodeon is straight up side eyeing those haters of CG TMNT and saying "well if you hated CG TMNT, you're really going to hate this." It's back to 2D animation, 2 toes, but then amped up to absurd in other ways. They explain the new weapons in a pretty succinct early way to say "new tmnt is new everything" pretty blatantly by how they get rid of the old. New April is pretty awesome too. I actually kind of want to see a relatively serious take on her character concept for a spin-off medium of some kind. That could be interesting. They actually should maybe look into casting her for some kind of live action special or for commercial bumps like what G2 did with Prime and that kid in live action.

They'll still be doing the random TMNT shorts too. So it's not like wide content won't still be coming. If anything, all this does is fuel even wider amounts of the short toons and yields a way to have them done as toys too.

Also with this, it seems they upped articulation too. The toys look like everything that fans have been asking for in the toys, but is using new toon designs. Though I have to admit, if they do Usagi in this style, I'm buying it in a heartbeat. Same probably for Metalhead or if they do MechaDon or do some other random Robocop or other wilder anime robot or pop culture robot stuff using the turtles. For some reason, I could easily see them doing a GizmoDuck parody episode where all the turtles end up wearing the armor at one point because of whatever the password on it is. And I gotta admit, I'd buy a toy of that in a heartbeat too.

And I do have to admit if they make a lights and sound Mikey Jack O' Lantern role play toy, I might buy that too.

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Originally Posted by evilekim

This also came hot off the heels of the last show, so it comes off a bit rushed in my opinion. I think if Nickelodeon announces an animated movie or Netflix animated for a mature audience, fans will back off complaining. Until then, I think this show has a hard road ahead.

That's what the entire last season of CG TMNT was. It was farewell multi-parters. Even in show they basically said "we're bored cause we have no storylines left to tell." Literally the only one left was about Mermaids. So they did a big Mad Max style thank you send off to the creators instead. That entire last season was pretty much entirely about old school fans and comic fans.

This has been in the works since around when those aired. So not really rushed. The CG one had ran its course and was only staying on because of how strong the ratings had been and to do some last fan wants like Usagi. So I don't think giving fans 'alternative' media is going to placate them at all. They already got everything they could ask for, and now it's time to try something new and different. The concept behind this one is to go farther back too. To before they were called the TMNT, before Shredder, before all of that, so it has more room to grow and last longer. That was part of the problem to the CG one, it jumped so fast into Shredder stuff, there really wasn't much to do and repeating the same storyline was getting stale.

TBH, the only thing I would have liked to have seen from CG TMNT, would have been a few more Karai and Shinigami episodes, and maybe one more future episode for them to do a full Karai as Shredder in the future story and how Shinigami would have looked as a future version. And okay, maybe I'm also a little partial to the mermaid story they could have still done too.

But it's time to hit F5 on the franchise definitely. See what the new brings in. And if this shapes up to be pretty fun with some material they can do, and what else may come as the show slow burns to things like Shredder and whatever the new Karai ends up being like, and how they may adapt Shinigami to that too, I'm kind of looking forward to seasons 2, 3, 4, and on. A figure of Usagi in this style would rock. The potential for parody episodes. Don's more full techno nerd gives even more chances for fun absurdities and cool toys. I think this show could really do some amazing big things as it progresses. Karai we'll likely see towards the end of season 2, maybe in season 3 and I look forward to seeing how she's adapted to this style and how they'll embelish her elements of "Rebelious shredder daughter." But it's definitely going to be a slow burn. Season 1 with no Shredder, Season 2 starting to hint at him with maybe the foot having more appearances. Season 3 likely starting to build to that reveal. Then the contrast dynamics of Splinter and his sons to Shredder and his Rebellious daughter.

From the feel of the story they are going for, lack of the forming of the name as yet, this feels like they are aiming for a 10 season type show, or at least 5-8.

Like how TF animated was so wildly different, to then growing into becoming Transformers of yesteryear. Which if it had kept going, would have led to Devastator, and much more too. This show is a deconstruction and rebuilding in the same way, but has stronger Nickelodeon support behind it than CN did for TFA. So in this case, it'll likely reach that full story path it was intended for on reconstructing the classic into something new, and building them towards a new future with a complete wild ride along the way.

Think of it like Harry Potter. This is book 1. Sorceror's stone(cause they get magic weapons, a magic compass etc). The really good stuff we're familiar with isn't until book 5, and the last book will get stretched to 3 seasons.

We're already seeing hints of adventures to be told in flashback too from Splinter's "Do Not Touch" shelf. So we may even see why splinter is as tired and worn down as he is in this too over time.