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Originally Posted by Jester

I would never have guessed.

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Originally Posted by Jester

I think that that's an issue present in most mainstream sci-fi and fantasy universes, though. Halo, Star Trek, Star Wars, Game of Thrones, etc, all would be due for similar criticism concerning their cosmology, by the same token.

You are certainly right. But in many of those series, you usually do not have something so blatantly incompatible at a fundamental level though.

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Originally Posted by Jester

To my understanding of the lore, there's a not-unreasonable basis to suppose that the Emperor is God as far as 40K is concerned. I mean, sure, the character was originally described as a gestalt of prehistoric human psykers welded together into a sort of "super-soul" for the purposes of defending mankind from Chaos, but that seems to have fallen by the wayside years ago. More recent texts have alluded to the Emperor's true nature as being so indescribably above and beyond everything else in the universe that neither the most advanced aliens nor all the forces of Chaos can in any way comprehend it.

I think the issue still is that no matter of how indescribable his power, he only comes across as a formidable person that has greater power than his foes. But for all that, he is still practically lying dead (um.... I mean... life support haha) on the Golden Throne.

But God, at least the one that is philosophically established and defended like in the schools of Aristotelian Thomism (and by virtue, in Catholicism) is not a being of that nature. God is pure existence itself. While the emperor may certainly be powerful, there is nothing about him that even comes close to that level of power.

Even more fundamentally, the emperor is after an earthly kingdom, pretty much like the textbook description of an Anti-Christ. If one ever had to evaluate if one was the same person as Christ based on evidence, the emperor is the very definition of everything opposite.

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Originally Posted by Jester

To me, that just illustrates the extent to which the Eldar tend to be blinded by their own arrogance, and/or how silly the DoW games tend to be (I mean, Khornate sorcerors? Seriously?).

Haha, well, I am not sure how precise you are about these things, but I think its established consensus in the W40K community by now that the entire lore is filled with inconsistencies (and this is leaving aside the games).