[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by Marine73

Yea, your right I missed some info, between conversation with my son about it and I guess misunderstanding some of the write up I misspoke. Still trying to figure out how my Tom Holland statement resulted in a religious nutbag remark, all I said is I felt bad for the kid as it seemed he thoroughly enjoyed being a part of the MCU and playing the character.

It's not a direct insult, but more a generalized statement how we shouldn't lose our minds over this. The sky is not falling, the world isn't ending and there will (hopefully) still be good Spidey films to come. So much of the reaction on social has been doom and gloom and slanted against Sony...but there really needs to be more thought and discussion to it.

This might not be the popular opinion, but I don't feel any sympathy for Disney/Marvel for this one. With what Disney was reportedly asking for, Sony had every right to tell them to stick it up their you know what. You have something that they want, and if you do... you do what you can to maintain that leverage. Unless of course, you wanna be like Kenner with Star Wars or Fox with the Xmen with the way they eventually lost theirs.

People also seem to forget that while critical acclaim is a good thing, movie making boils down to box office draw, and while Sony took some serious missteps in how the product was presented to us along the way, the bottom line is that all of those missteps still made a ton of money hand over fist. And those missteps drew big bank without Disney's involvement. Reviews and awards mean little if no one cares or is paying to see it. In fact...Spiderverse (which many regard as the best Spidey film ever and I won't argue) made the LEAST amount of box office out of all of Sony's Spidey efforts. As long as we continue to see these films, Sony will (and really shouldn't) feel any pressure to budge an inch from their hard line. Fifty percent is a HUGE asking price from Disney...and why? Spidey is like Batman. He succeeds on his own. Spidey doesn't need them, as much as Disney needed Spidey.

I'm actually excited for this, because Spidey doesn't need to rub shoulders with Captain America or the X-Men in order to tell great stories, as he has one of the most recognizable group of side characters and rogues out there. Disney is about to wander into this next phase with a bunch of characters that very many people know little to nothing about...which will be even more scrutinized (and possibly overlooked) as they test the audiences patience. We all just want our X-Men and FF films NOW. Not everyone knows who Helmut Zemo, Shang Chi or the Eternals are...but EVERYONE knows who Doc Ock, Carnage (more on that in a sec) and the Green Goblin are...

This also should provide Sony with a venue to include more mature material as well...as there was no chance in hell we would ever receive the bloodshed a Spidey fronted "Maximum Carnage" or "Torment" would provide, or the sexual energy that an encounter with Black Cat would cook up under Disney's watch. Deadpool, Daredevil and Logan proved that there is an audience for a comic flick without the whimsical Disney magic draped all over it, especially when it's well done and handled with care. Don't feel bad for Tom Holland. He constantly teased wanting to battle Venom on screen, and if he sticks around for the long haul, there is a lot of money coming his way in the future.

And finally, I see this as a small bit of karma coming back on Disney. The way they coldly and with a great deal of apathy told a grieving father that he couldn't erect a tombstone for his recently deceased child who adored Spidey during his tragically short life was absolutely abhorrent, disrespectful and disgusting. The reason? Because Spidey is "good" and "wholesome". (well what the fuck are children then?) Basically, street cred. While I adore my entertainment and sports media as much as the next person, as a father, to deny something like that which could promote so much healing and love and costs NOTHING is simply vile and almost evil.

I hope somewhere, that gentleman has his feet on his desk, with a small smile on his face. It will never bring bring closure to the loss of a child, but it must feel good to see someone finally tell the Mouse to not let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.