[Phantomcrow]

I know they basically said the 1 week pre order window was because these are ready to go into production at the factory, they just need to know how many to make. Everything is done and ready to roll off the production line. so that is also why such a short turnaround for November shipping. It is not like Kickstarter or Super 7 because all the work is done. For those others the kiskstarter happens before any work is done. So I hope they see this works and decide to basically use the KS/Cround fund/Haslab method for at least some of the future offerings. Randy even hinted at a Turtle Van could be something to croud fund.