[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by StuartGreen2019

@TheBlueMarvel - I wasn't trying to call you out, that certainly wasn't my intent. I just used your quote because it was the recent reply I saw about the subject.

I get the "if a-list heroes and villains peg-warm, then these would too" reasoning and it does make a lot of sense. I just think that if they had a clever way of using it, like the two-packs or include other accessories that could make it into two different figures like I suggested, that Hasbro could certainly make it work. There are a lot of ways to do a civilian character that could make it sell. Heck, Gwen with the M.J. head still sells out on most websites and stores I've seen while other characters like Peter Parker peg-warm (though I think the head sculpt with the glasses they used for Peter was what made that happen, as a lot of folks who bought it took the glasses off).

Thanks for the reply back. I hope you all are having a great night and stay safe, everyone.

Sure, as I said, I believe you sincerely want these figs and that many others might as well - throw me on that list for spot characters like Banner and Ross. But our numbers are only part of the pie manufacturers go after. Hasbro's Legends line is a 'play-line', meaning that much of their business is targeted at kids with a loose investment in the source material that buy largely based on how cool and visually appealing a toy might be.

Most of these young buyers won't know who an armless canon Curt Connors is, even some younger comic collectors might not recognize the significance and regard the fig as a nondescript amputee/pharma employee. The civilian slots would largely be wasted ones, in my opinion, taking up slots that could go to many of the other characters you mentioned. Zzzax, Ringmaster, Nightmare, a redrafted Abomination/Absorbing Man, or Beta Ray.

Honestly, I wouldn't want to see Hasbro implement gimmicky two-packs as I've already reached my threshold for minimal effort redecos and reused bodies. If they are going to do two packs, give me something to be excited about: The Presence and Starlight, Mad Thinker and his Awesome Android, Hammer and Anvil, Swordsman (Andreas) and Baron Von Strucker (or throw in Andrea for a family 3-pack), etc.

Also, cherry-picking Gwen and Mary-Jane and trying to extrapolate their success out to an entire wave of civilians is a stretch given their profound importance in the Spidey mythos.

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

How would they be any less of a wasted slot compared to the garbage Black Widow, Shang-Chi, Eternals waves? Or a wasted slot compared to the cyborg Spider-Man, negative Spider-Man, and that random neon colored Spider-Man coming out later on this year?

How would they be "any less" of a wasted slot? I think you meant 'more', the manner in which you phrased that is confusing to me...but I'm in my cups tonight, so there's that.

Provided I'm understanding you correctly, it's very much different given that your original suggestion was for an entire wave of civilian characters versus the couple of spot selections and obligatory MCU tie-in waves you've thrown out as comparatives. Simply put, there's more recognition for movie waves because of the, well, the movies themselves along with numerous trailers and ancillary media. Kids and casuals won't know any of the people in an ALL-civilian wave and it would warm even harder than the list of underperformers you mentioned.

Specifically as it regards the parade of Spideys (that I also find annoying, and I've been a fan since age 7), if you haven't glommed onto the fact that just about any iteration of anything that remotely resembles Spider-Man will sell (even cheap bootleg knock-offs) from Mexico City to Shanghai, then maybe we should end the conversation here.