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Originally Posted by EternianJerkian

I dunno. Aye, both Luthor and the director turned out to be problematic as you say. And I wasn't so keen on that Clark missed out on the first few years of his kid's life and started basically stalking them. I did like Brandon Routh though and I loved that he got to reprise the role in CW's Crisis On Infinite Earths with elements of Kingdom Come Superman (despite him already playing the Atom in the very same universe, which was lampshaded). Returns was announced way back then as being a sequel to Superman 1 and 2 and it's use of the John Williams scene and the characters being largely the same versions as the Reeve movies, despite the different actors (with exception of Jor-El who is still played by Marlon Brando via archive footage and CGI). Aye, it is what it is and like I said I liked Routh well enough in the role and I think he did even better in Crisis and love that his Superman is still out there in the multiverse. And I liked the concept of the Super-family but felt Returns didn't execute that well, but these days we have the tv show Superman & Lois doing a great job of that. And even before that, we did have a similar thing for a while in the comics too til Bendis came along and rushed lil Jon Kent's aging. As for Otis, aye, he was a fun character but he's not in Reeve's Superman 3 or 4 either. Heck, he was barely in Superman 2.

Oooo, forgot about Singer... Also I have not seen the Reeves films in years. Only the first two really stand out. I just double checked and forgot that Ned Beatty was replaced by of all people Jon Cryer. We lost Otis for Duckie.