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Originally Posted by K Dubious

I'm not picking sides here as I understand both points, but Smythe is hands down the "who" you are asking about.

He has never had a legends figure and is a staple character on the show. I would have picked him over every other character from the show to headline the subline. It would also generate sales if two previously unreleased characters were sold in a two pack!



I hate seeing new stuff with pins, but hate seeing reduced articulation way more!!

Touché. But I think Doc Ock was just first, if these stay successful, we're likely going to see Smythe alongside Chameleon and Morbius in their show appearances.

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Yes, in my estimation, every animated figure is a waste of a slot since they’re largely reissues. To answer your question, I’d prefer, quite literally, any figure that hasn’t been done over something I’ve already purchased. That should be pretty easy to understand. And while the animated Ock look is a new sculpt, it’s a look that I’m not convinced is more coveted than the classic version, with wire tentacles, that many remarked would make the two previously released Ocks perfect. That said, I’m curious about this poll regarding most requested Doc Ock looks. Please share, or point me to where I can see the entrants, as I’m honestly not familiar and would like to see what ranks where for Otto and a number of others.

As for “selling out,” to me, I can’t speak for the others with whom you are conflating me, it’s a simple measurement of interest. Nothing scientific, or peer reviewed (as if it needs to be). When there’s interest in something those things tend to sell out and they become unavailable. As far as I know, specific metrics don’t get shared for the retail of MLs (or any lines), leaving us to use observations at our disposal. I’ve been paying attention to the animated line, despite only owning three to four of them. I was surprised that it took so long for Jubilee (I assumed the high secondary market price would drive interest) and Wolverine to no longer be available on Pulse. Something that that only seemed to become the case after holiday sales initiatives. The only three animated figs that have demonstrated enough interest to sell out on Pulse have been Venom, Jubilee, and Wolverine. They don’t seem to be hitting the way Hasbro had intended because if they did, they’d be as scarce as Skrull Soldiers and Hellfire goons.

Hey, man, Hasbro really doesn’t need a defense force (especially an unpaid volunteer one) and, believe it, or not, I’m far from the apoplectic type as it regards Hasbro’s missteps. You can think I’m wrong about how well this will sell, that’s fine, there’s no horse in this race for me (there never is), but I will always want something ‘new’ before something ‘rehashed’ and that includes my most wanted rehashes like Beta Ray Bill. Good luck with your 2Pack and getting the rest of your Octo people. I’m waiting for Will O’ the Wisp, Carrion, Black Tarantula (and apparently another Tarantula with black cowl), Man Wolf, etc.

See, if this were the regular Spider-Man retail wave, I'd agree with you. I'd rather see a Carrion before another version of Doc Ock (or two Ben Reillys and a Miles for the that matter, but such is fate).

But this is the animated series VHS line, there is no spot to take from a new character. Although, Aunt May IS a new character, but not really the point. The point is where Doc Ock in this costume belongs. And I also argue, that since as you said this is usually a low effort line for Hasbro, that the tooling budget saved and revenue generated from these sublines is a great thing. It will keep the line strong and bring in the funds to make more original offerings like Man Wolf someday.

Anyway I don't have poll numbers anymore than you have sales data, it's just based on what I've seen across the web ever since the retro cards for Spider-Man became a thing. People have been asking for this Doc Ock, they said as much on the Livestream, and now he's here. With some overdue new tentacles to boot.

And anyway, I don't defend Hasbro, they make plenty of missteps (the price of this set especially will be unpleasant). I just defend this release from being one of them.

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Originally Posted by Zigerlion

Haha precisely, Hasblow makes enough money without white knights defending their honor. Some weirdos here really takes it to heart when their fav toys/lines are criticized. They act as if someone murdered their mothers and goes off like rabid dogs.

Nah, just having a conversation. Forgive me for liking a Hasbro product I guess.

What's really weird, though, is how some people always go into threads on toy message board of all places trying to be funny by using terms like "Hasblow" and just generally being rude to others.

But I suppose it's like they say, "if it at first you don't succeed..."