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Originally Posted by webz

Actually... the script was finalized back when Vaughn was still attached to the project. I read a draft before he dropped out that was 99% what was in the final flick. All Ratner added was a few fanservice moments. Ratner was brought into the project a month before principle shooting started.


Venom was the best thing about Spider-Man 3, which is funny considering Raimi HATES the character. Venom was closer in origin and look than any of the previous SM villains. The "humanizing" of Sandman was a JOKE. Also, the Venom movie has NOT died... it's very much alive. I've heard "rumors" about it, but without revealing people who'd rather keep their job, people would just mock me and say, "whatever"... but Sony is VERY interested in pushing the Venom flick forward, especially after the $$$$ made by Fox coz of the Wolverine spin-off. I've heard it'll go bigtime after the Spidey reboot, and be heavily influenced by "Lethal Protector" and "Separation Anxiety"... but the relationship between Brock and the alien will be similar to Toxin.



Costume looks dumb. Webshooters make no sense. A highschool kid can make a compound the 3M company cannot? uh-huh.... suuuuuuuuuure. I'd feel better if the Spectacular Spider-Man writers were involved in the project. They've done the best Spider-Man project in decades.

Not quite... see above...
Ryan Reynolds and Schuler-Donner both have said that the Deadpool movie will be independent of the XMO:Wolverine of Deadpool, and much closer to the comics.


Spider-Man 3 made more money than the previous films, same with X3, so studio interference is moot, since obviously they know what they are doing, coz it makes mooolah. Fans demanded Venom (3 to 1 in most magazine and online polls) and they got a fairly faithful version of Venom in movie wasted by a crappy Black Suit story involving a retarded Sandman.

X3 got rushed, and was trying to be everything to too many, and failed. In it's defense, it's the closest to the modern X comics of the three films: Too many characters, zero development, and all flash.

Not going to argue X3, but if I was, I'd point out that even if vaughn was on board for the script, he wasn't there to execute his vision, which is the exact problem to the script when you change hands so many times, though again not going to argue accuracy to the x-men comics for being all flash and no substance as marvel is pioneering that quite well in the comics, so there is no defense. Spider-man 3 on the other hand is far away from comics accuracy. It's animated series accuracy you're refering to. (Secret wars couldn't have been done on screen anyway.) Yup, even ROTF banked quite well, but does that make it a great movie? Though yes I enjoyed it. Spider-man 3 on the other hand was going to draw in a crowd no matter what after the first 2, expectations were high. No review could have stopped that. Now if they didn't interfere for the sake of a spin-off, we could have had a semi decent venom, and better usage later, as opposed to just shoe horning it into an already made script that previously used vulture.

Part of the problem with venom is how he was shoe-horned in to appease fans, while the church scene was accurate and even decent, the rest not so much. That being said, I still would have prefered Raimi's 4, and the venom spin-off that the series was going to have instead of this reboot, but the reboot does indeed look promising so I'll give it a chance. This reboot craze though has got to stop in general.

As for Deadpool those who have read the script, and even Ryan Reynolds himself has said it ties to it, but is still comic accurate. They will deal with XMO:Wolverine in a Deadpool fashion. Not ignore it or be independant of it. So yes it will cover that bit, but no, it won't be tied to it as the end all be all of deadpool. A good film can do both. Just look at the wolverine. It's going independant, yet in a way is still tied to XMO:W. With Logan's amnesia, there's no reason to constantly reference the first one anyway though. So they are free in the clear to do it as they see fit.