The Transformers (Catch All) Thread

Crazy Jetty · 08-31-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

well....the whole concept of the masterpiece line is to make them cartoon accurate.

Not really. Or at least, they've failed miserably with that goal up until Rodimus.
Grimlock borrows more from the toy than he does the cartoon in robot mode (Dinosaur mode is a different story).
Optimus borrows from dozens of sources, as well as adding it's own designs. He's full of design cues that were never seen in the cartoon or the comics or the toys.
Starscream's goal was to make as realistic a jet as possible, with the robot being the secondary priority. As such, he's chock full of features never present on Starscream before. He was even given samurai design cues, intentionally.
Megatron is just one comical hot mess that fails miserably at everything it tries to do, aside from being the same size as Optimus. It's not toy accurate. It's not cartoon accurate. It's not really anything.

Cartoon accuracy isn't the priority/theme for the line as an overview. It only comes in on the individual level, like Rodimus.

bmorr · 08-31-2011, 04:48 PM

The first MP Optimus is probably the most successful of the line. The form is the same just with some nessesary details. But I will agree theyre all an amalgamation of both the cartoon and toy put together. I know what your saying about the seeker designs, especially the kibble, but unless engineering takes a huge leap in few years, its the best we are going to get(until they redesign the classics version).

BlackMagnus · 08-31-2011, 04:57 PM

On the topic of MPs, to me, the $60 you pay for the US release is a steal. And really, Roddy isn't that bad. I think he's great actually. Once you get the tricky ankle transformation figured out (into alt mode) he is a breeze. Awesome articulation, paint apps are good, the only chipping I have had is on the canopy hinge which is a common problem. He's not as good as Grimlock but, he damn good on his own.

bmorr · 08-31-2011, 04:59 PM

nice! I used the 20 percent off coupon that facebook was giving out so I paid 50 straight after tax.

Crazy Jetty · 08-31-2011, 05:02 PM

Well, for the seekers... again, not really. The deviations in his robot design, again, were intentional. There was another, more cartoon accurate MP Starscream that was designed (I can't remember if it was the same guy, or different). The designer of what we got then decided to go a different direction. He wanted a more accurate jet, and he wanted to use the kibble differently to make the robot sleeker, and put in the samurai design cues.
There was a prototype of the original design made, and takara showed off pictures of it once. I don't know if TF Wiki has them or not, though.

As for Classics... I would very much like to see that mold retired, and a new design made.
Maybe a new deluxe Armada style Starscream, or pre AHM rubbish IDW.

BlackMagnus · 08-31-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

nice! I used the 20 percent off coupon that facebook was giving out so I paid 50 straight after tax.

Exactly. I used the same one for Roddy too, so at less then retail he's a solid figure. Offshoot is just icing on the cake. And to me, usually one of the 2 modes for a TF, for the sake of accuracy, is compremised in some way. Hot Rod nails it on both levels, just like Grimmy.

bmorr · 08-31-2011, 05:09 PM

yea, IDW, Im loving what theyre doing right now. As someone whos read TF comics since forever, the depth of what theyre doing is so different than what weve seen before. Then theres the continuity issues......But I dont even remember whats going on from like....four months ago.

Howevor, I did like what Dreamwave was putting out. Ill give them credit for trying a little bit to work with cartoon continuity and screwed us in the end. They left off with the construction of autobot city.

Crazy Jetty · 08-31-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

yea, IDW, Im loving what theyre doing right now. As someone whos read TF comics since forever, the depth of what theyre doing is so different than what weve seen before. Then theres the continuity issues......But I dont even remember whats going on from like....four months ago.

I adored what IDW was doing, until they took it away from Furman and let McCarthy drive it off a cliff.
Since then, only Last Stand and Maximum Dinobots have been decent.

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Howevor, I did like what Dreamwave was putting out. Ill give them credit for trying a little bit to work with cartoon continuity and screwed us in the end. They left off with the construction of autobot city.

But isn;t that par for the course for Dreamwave? Screwing everyone in the end?

bmorr · 09-01-2011, 08:27 AM

ok so i decided to keep my rodimus.

then came actually transforming him. Lets call it an experience in itself. For thoase who own him the hands are the most frustrating thing about the process. You know what I did? i unclipped the hands and now the world is a better place. Everything fits so much better. I also need to wd-40 the cockpit cause its jsut too tight. the button doesnt do squat. It took me 2 hours of fiddling around with this ****sucker to make it work.

remember kids, the hands have to come off.

Is it worth the buy? yes if you like to display your stuff. No, if you want to actually try and play with it. Driving it on the carpet is fine, but I warn against driving it on a hard surface because of the underside. I cant over emphasize hoe much of a low rider this guy is. And Lastly, he has TWO matrixs' Why? I dunno.

BlackMagnus · 09-01-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

ok so i decided to keep my rodimus.

then came actually transforming him. Lets call it an experience in itself. For thoase who own him the hands are the most frustrating thing about the process. You know what I did? i unclipped the hands and now the world is a better place. Everything fits so much better. I also need to wd-40 the cockpit cause its jsut too tight. the button doesnt do squat. It took me 2 hours of fiddling around with this ****sucker to make it work.

remember kids, the hands have to come off.

Is it worth the buy? yes if you like to display your stuff. No, if you want to actually try and play with it. Driving it on the carpet is fine, but I warn against driving it on a hard surface because of the underside. I cant over emphasize hoe much of a low rider this guy is. And Lastly, he has TWO matrixs' Why? I dunno.

The thing with the hands isn't necessary, here is a pic to illustrate-

and the 2 matices are so one can be kept in the chest and one he is actually able to hold with his goofy hands as shown on the box. The Takara version only came with the smaller one.

*pic provided from Cheebs of the TFW boards*

bmorr · 09-01-2011, 11:42 AM

hahaha believe me i tried that. And the chrome cylinder kept popping out. Is that the takara version?

BlackMagnus · 09-01-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

hahaha believe me i tried that. And the chrome cylinder kept popping out. Is that the takara version?

The one in the pic? Yes. Thats the Takara version. Getting his alt mode to fit together properly all lies in the ankles. If those hinges aren't lined up just right, NOTHING will go together. I had the same problem. Let me see if I can find a pic to show you the alignment.

BlackMagnus · 09-01-2011, 11:59 AM

Ok here we go-

also from Cheebs. That hinge is very fiddly, the first leg will go in fine. It's putting the other in that the joint wants to pop out by one click. And its thats one click that will bind the rest of the transformation up.

bmorr · 09-01-2011, 12:37 PM

yeah my feet are both in the "wrong" position. Oh yeah, i found a fig thats in scale with his cockpit...the results are horrific...

BlackMagnus · 09-01-2011, 12:58 PM

Lol, that's ridiculous!

On with some more pictures-

vampireheart · 09-03-2011, 12:32 AM

If anyone wants the cube for their display I got it from this seller and I can say that hes good to deal with

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEST-CUSTOM-...item27bd943d32

BlackMagnus · 09-03-2011, 12:36 PM

I hope to get this resized to fit max sig regulations, Photobuckets resizing is kindly wonky and I can't get it nearly big enough to accord to the rules.

ElekTriC · 09-04-2011, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vampireheart

If anyone wants the cube for their display I got it from this seller and I can say that hes good to deal with

THE BEST CUSTOM MADE TRANSFORMERS ALLSPARK CUBE DOTM | eBay

wow that cube is nice, now im thinking if i should buy it or not.

BlackMagnus · 09-04-2011, 04:22 PM

bmorr · 09-11-2011, 09:56 AM

hey guys, I found DOTM space case at my local target. TF fans are crazy about it but I doesnt look too good. should i but it only cause its considered rare?

BlackMagnus · 09-11-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

hey guys, I found DOTM space case at my local target. TF fans are crazy about it but I doesnt look too good. should i but it only cause its considered rare?

I'd say pick it up to trade with a transfan who is looking for him. Since you really have no interest in him, picking him up just because he is "rare", sucks for other collectors who haven't found one yet.

D00MTR0N · 09-11-2011, 02:56 PM

those are some awesome pics.

BlackMagnus · 09-11-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by D00MTR0N

those are some awesome pics.

Not sure if you meant me or not so, thanks!

D00MTR0N · 09-11-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackMagnus

Not sure if you meant me or not so, thanks!

yes you magnus,btw love that figure^

BlackMagnus · 09-11-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by D00MTR0N

yes you magnus,btw love that figure^

I had to ask, I wasn't the only one on the page who posted ones. Thank you sir, I appreciate it!

Megatron is awesome, imagine the delight finding him at 5 Below for $3! Made it all the more better.

Again, thanks for the kind words, I'm really enjoying the community over here.

For the wrestling fans, Offshoot (Firebolt) is channelling his inner Shawn Micheals.

"I'm just a sexy bot!"

08-31-2011, 04:40 PM	#26
Crazy Jetty WINGNUT & SCREWLOOSE! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,172	Quote: Originally Posted by bmorr well....the whole concept of the masterpiece line is to make them cartoon accurate. Not really. Or at least, they've failed miserably with that goal up until Rodimus. Grimlock borrows more from the toy than he does the cartoon in robot mode (Dinosaur mode is a different story). Optimus borrows from dozens of sources, as well as adding it's own designs. He's full of design cues that were never seen in the cartoon or the comics or the toys. Starscream's goal was to make as realistic a jet as possible, with the robot being the secondary priority. As such, he's chock full of features never present on Starscream before. He was even given samurai design cues, intentionally. Megatron is just one comical hot mess that fails miserably at everything it tries to do, aside from being the same size as Optimus. It's not toy accurate. It's not cartoon accurate. It's not really anything. Cartoon accuracy isn't the priority/theme for the line as an overview. It only comes in on the individual level, like Rodimus. __________________

08-31-2011, 04:57 PM	#28
BlackMagnus Dos Equis spokesman Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In my toy room Posts: 1,946	On the topic of MPs, to me, the $60 you pay for the US release is a steal. And really, Roddy isn't that bad. I think he's great actually. Once you get the tricky ankle transformation figured out (into alt mode) he is a breeze. Awesome articulation, paint apps are good, the only chipping I have had is on the canopy hinge which is a common problem. He's not as good as Grimlock but, he damn good on his own. Last edited by BlackMagnus; 08-31-2011 at 05:02 PM..

08-31-2011, 05:02 PM	#30
Crazy Jetty WINGNUT & SCREWLOOSE! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,172	Well, for the seekers... again, not really. The deviations in his robot design, again, were intentional. There was another, more cartoon accurate MP Starscream that was designed (I can't remember if it was the same guy, or different). The designer of what we got then decided to go a different direction. He wanted a more accurate jet, and he wanted to use the kibble differently to make the robot sleeker, and put in the samurai design cues. There was a prototype of the original design made, and takara showed off pictures of it once. I don't know if TF Wiki has them or not, though. As for Classics... I would very much like to see that mold retired, and a new design made. Maybe a new deluxe Armada style Starscream, or pre AHM rubbish IDW. __________________

08-31-2011, 05:21 PM	#33
Crazy Jetty WINGNUT & SCREWLOOSE! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,172	Quote: Originally Posted by bmorr yea, IDW, Im loving what theyre doing right now. As someone whos read TF comics since forever, the depth of what theyre doing is so different than what weve seen before. Then theres the continuity issues......But I dont even remember whats going on from like....four months ago. I adored what IDW was doing, until they took it away from Furman and let McCarthy drive it off a cliff. Since then, only Last Stand and Maximum Dinobots have been decent. Quote: Howevor, I did like what Dreamwave was putting out. Ill give them credit for trying a little bit to work with cartoon continuity and screwed us in the end. They left off with the construction of autobot city. But isn;t that par for the course for Dreamwave? Screwing everyone in the end? __________________

09-01-2011, 12:37 PM	#39
bmorr Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 4,792	yeah my feet are both in the "wrong" position. Oh yeah, i found a fig thats in scale with his cockpit...the results are horrific... Last edited by bmorr; 09-01-2011 at 12:42 PM..