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Since X-Men first became successful on the big screen, more and more comics have been adapted into movies, TV shows, and cartoons.
We've even gotten some brilliant series based on fairly obscure comics, like The Walking Dead. However, the big two, Warner Bros and Marvel only seem to think that certain characters/teams can ever successfully be adapted. Marvel: Spiderman Wolverine X-Men Ironman Avengers Fantastic Four Hulk Punisher -There are notable inclusions, Captain America, Doctor Strange, and Black Panther, but these have only been touched once each. Not counting those aweful cap movies of the 70s. The main list have all had multiple adaptations since the ninties. And Marvel rarely seems to touch more obscure stuff for adapting. DC: Superman Batman Justice League Teen Titans Watchmen Young Justice Green Lantern Wonder Woman Flash -I'm well aware that there's a lot left off this list. I'll give it to DC, they've tried a lot more than Marvel, and it makes it difficult to remember *everything.* DC has dipped into some more obscure stuff over Marvel, such as Young Justice, Green Lantern, and Watchmen. And they tend to use a lot more obscure characters popping up in their cartoons. But, it feels to me that DC has less faith in anything that *isn't* Superman or Batman. Anyway, more to the point. Both companies feel to me reluctant to explore some of their more obscure concepts, or second and third string characters to adapt into other forms of media. I'm not one who feels *everything* can be adapted. But I do feel that both companies (and others without their resouces) have a *lot* more to offer than they'll put faith into So, what adaptations do you think would make it big, if WB or Marvel/Fox/Sony/Disney/Whomever threw the kinds of resources into that they did for The Dark Knight, Ironman, Young Justice, JLU, Avengers: EMH, Walking Dead, ect? (By resources, I don't mean just budget, But also got real talent working on) Top of my list- Green Arrow: Either as a movie, TV series, Adaptation of Smallville, or animated series... I think Green Arrow would be a huge hit. The Question: I think Question would make for a good, more mature oriented TV series. Not so sure about movie or cartoon. Make the protagonist Renee Montoya, a down-on-her-luck cop, and follow along as she's unravelling the mystery of this strange vigelante. First season poses Question almost as if he's the antagonist or villain. The Runaways: I think would make a fantastic animated series. 'Nuff said. Young avengers: Ditto. X-Men Academy/New Mutants: Ditto Captain Marvel: Could be a cool 40's period piece, as a movie. As a cartoon, I think would work really well.
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Life Between the Panels
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The Preacher. It would never be as good as the comics, but I'd fucking love to see that.
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I don't know about making it big, but I would LOVE to see an animated movie for Old Man Logan.
But one of my biggest wishes for a film; if the Avengers movie is successful and all the individual character films continue to be successful and they build up the whole Marvel Universe on film and audiences are familiar with everyone, CIVIL WAR. |
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Los Angeles
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I wanna see Y: The last man, that would make a pretty cool show.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Since Nemesis is already getting an adaption (hopefully as faithful as can be), I'll say another comic worth adapting should be Superior (once it's finished).
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Life Between the Panels
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Has anyone else on here read The Preacher? If not, for shame!
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I also forgot that I think Batgirl would make a badass cartoon.
Stephanie Brown and Oracle would be absolutely amazing: I would prefer a collage setting, but Highschool would work well too. Detatch it from Batman (In terms of it's independence), and delete Cassandra Cain's immidiate connection (Can reveal she wore the mantel later on, if need be. Just that she's not nessisary to start it like the comics). Pilot- Steph is attending Professor Gordan's class, and somehow she discovers Babs was Batgirl. She steals her old costume and starts crusading, poorly. (The Spoiler being a fantasy vigilante fan character of her's). Babs talks Huntress into getting into her hair. Huntress lightly knocks the snot out of her to show her how dangerous this is, dumps her in her own bed, and takes the suit away. Babs talks to her. Tells her why she stopped. Why she's paralyzed. Steph goes off and creates a Spoiler costume. Babs gets in trouble with Calculator and kidnapped. Unable to get ahold of Huntress or Batman, Steph goes out as Spoiler and manages to rescue Babs. Reluctantly, Barbara takes on training her, and gives her a brand new Batgirl costume. I see this as a cross gender action series. I want the females to be feminine, but strong. I want them to be strong characters that young boys can and should look up to, and show young girls that girls can be kickass, without being sex objects. And let's get Gail Simone to be the story editor. SHE can do this exactly how I see it.
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Illyria's New Qwa'ha Xahn
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Both are branching out more and more. The mainstays have brought in cash, but both have dabbled in obscure off and on too.
Manthing, captain america movie in the 90s(plus the two in the 70s), Shazam had his own tv series in the 70s, birds of prey, among several other attempts at different franchises. Going forward from marvel we've got AKA Jessica Jones, Mockingbird, a new Fox Punisher series, Kazar, and even more in the planning stages now. Movie-wise we've got runaways(Small Faces) still in the wings looking for a less marvel heavy date to go forward, a new Doctor strange movie, Black Panther movie, war machine movie, Daredevil, fantastic 4, among many others just waiting for their windows to open including yes, a new mutants movie still on the board over at Fox. DC has dialed it back some with recent problems in the live action front, but animated they're always up for trying anything that makes money. On the live front we've got a Raven series coming, wonder woman was canned by NBC, and for movies it's just Superman and batman for now. Unless the next superman movie busts again, then it'll just be batman with maybe green lantern. The obscures are great, and vertigo especially is a wealth of comics being adapted, but on the superhero front it seems only that Marvel is making headway with many characters, while DC is mostly just sticking to Batman as their lone money maker. I wouldn't count marvel out on using obscures at all. They've tried in the past and keep trying. DC/Warner Bros on the other hand tends to focus only on what has worked and sadly, birds of prey is on that list of mistakes alongside Batgirl thanks to schumacher. Part of the problem with both though, is finding material that's not just sold on the tights. They need to find something that rings with general audience appeal to make it worthwhile, something that has a good story and merits to it being done. It's a fine line of doing the material that warrants it seamlessly, and finding material that can be catered to work. Some stuff can, some stuff can't. I'm sure we'd all like to see She-Hulk like Harvey Birdman attorney at law, among god knows how many others, or my personal favorite idea, X-23 done by Monty Oum, but Marvel is slow, burns bridges just as fast as they make them, and is still learning how to navigate hollywood politics and juggling audience appeal. DC on the otherhand has the problem of being borderline too impersonal in their properties. They both need to find a happy middle ground of new entertainment forays. Marvel is starting to learn, and so is DC. The new CN block for DC stuff coming will have plenty of character shorts of all kinds, and Marvel is getting on the ball with their tv series sort of now with hopefully some interesting surprises in store later if other quieter rumors are true about some potential new CG animated forays. They just need more time to really come to fruition and be on the screen. Marvel also needs to lay off the actor bashing and bridge burning before they end up only living on the name recognition and how you have to play ball with them for so and so character from your childhood. That's part of the problem with the comics themselves right now. Instead of being "the house of ideas," they are quickly becoming "the House of ideas from everyone else that we managed to screw over including almost stan lee himself." All around I look forward to these projects from both camps if they indeed move forward. The future looks promising for now so long as neither continues to make a mess of things... Last edited by Snowflakian; 10-24-2011 at 09:15 PM.. |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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I also forgot that I think Batgirl would make a badass cartoon.
Stephanie Brown and Oracle would be absolutely amazing: I would prefer a collage setting, but Highschool would work well too. Detatch it from Batman (In terms of it's independence), and delete Cassandra Cain's immidiate connection (Can reveal she wore the mantel later on, if need be. Just that she's not nessisary to start it like the comics). Pilot- Steph is attending Professor Gordan's class, and somehow she discovers Babs was Batgirl. She steals her old costume and starts crusading, poorly. (The Spoiler being a fantasy vigilante fan character of her's). Babs talks Huntress into getting into her hair. Huntress lightly knocks the snot out of her to show her how dangerous this is, dumps her in her own bed, and takes the suit away. Babs talks to her. Tells her why she stopped. Why she's paralyzed. Steph goes off and creates a Spoiler costume. Babs gets in trouble with Calculator and kidnapped. Unable to get ahold of Huntress or Batman, Steph goes out as Spoiler and manages to rescue Babs. Reluctantly, Barbara takes on training her, and gives her a brand new Batgirl costume. I see this as a cross gender action series. I want the females to be feminine, but strong. I want them to be strong characters that young boys can and should look up to, and show young girls that girls can be kickass, without being sex objects. And let's get Gail Simone to be the story editor. SHE can do this exactly how I see it. |
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Only way I would watch this if Tim Drake got an appearance at some point. Otherwise I can't plausibly see Batgirl working out as a stand alone title unless somewhere along the way you throw Damien into the mix. Might as well just have him there so he could say how much he detests the blonde in his own unsubtle ways. Plus Stephanie Brown just wasn't quite a fan favorite either. She had her moments but a career short lived.
Question would be almost absurdly obscure, and not very well liked if JLU hadn't used him to perfection. And Steph's career is shortlived because DC reset the damned universe and deleted her, with a shiton of other characters, popular and not. Also ruining Barbara as far as I'm concerned. (I have a paralized ex who's super pissed they took away her hero) I wouldn't have the slightest problem with Tim Drake being involved, though! I adore him! But I'd personally use him as a supporting character. The point would be having the three girls (Steph, Oracle, and Huntress) as the leads. But I'd stay the hell away from damion wayne. Glad you like him. But I can't stand his existence. EDIT: PS, I would appreciate help trying to keep this thread positive. Instead of singling out someone's idea of what appeals to them and saying "I don't want to see that," instead just go ahead and post what adaptations you do want to see.
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First, How many times have adaptations turn opinions on characters, in either direction? I've seen plenty that have amped some up to super stardom, and destroy others.
Question would be almost absurdly obscure, and not very well liked if JLU hadn't used him to perfection. And Steph's career is shortlived because DC reset the damned universe and deleted her, with a shiton of other characters, popular and not. Also ruining Barbara as far as I'm concerned. (I have a paralized ex who's super pissed they took away her hero) I wouldn't have the slightest problem with Tim Drake being involved, though! I adore him! But I'd personally use him as a supporting character. The point would be having the three girls (Steph, Oracle, and Huntress) as the leads. But I'd stay the hell away from damion wayne. Glad you like him. But I can't stand his existence. EDIT: PS, I would appreciate help trying to keep this thread positive. Instead of singling out someone's idea of what appeals to them and saying "I don't want to see that," instead just go ahead and post what adaptations you do want to see. Honestly not a fan of Damian Wayne. Just found that it would be a funny idea to throw in like the comics. Would probably bring in his fans into the viewing pot if he was there just for a kick or two. Kind of like how the Brave & the Bold had him (brought in some fans just to see). Otherwise I think one comic series that would be delightful would be Tiny Titans. Sure it's kiddie but by god it's such an enjoyable read. I'm sure all ages could enjoy the different adventures these young-ins would have if it got an animated show or even shorts. |
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Whoa...sorry if it seemed like I was singling out your idea. Just one that I wanted to touch upon.
Honestly not a fan of Damian Wayne. Just found that it would be a funny idea to throw in like the comics. Would probably bring in his fans into the viewing pot if he was there just for a kick or two. Kind of like how the Brave & the Bold had him (brought in some fans just to see). Otherwise I think one comic series that would be delightful would be Tiny Titans. Sure it's kiddie but by god it's such an enjoyable read. I'm sure all ages could enjoy the different adventures these young-ins would have if it got an animated show or even shorts. I just have seen a bit more negativity lately in several threads (Not nessisarily huge blowups, but just it feels like the last few days there's been greater negativity lately than the usual amount), and I thought it'd just be nice to see people being able to post their ideas without any negative pushback. I'd have probably posted that if the responce hadn't been to one of my ideas. On the flip side, I haven't heard of Tiny Titans. But that sounds like it might be a fun counter to Super Hero Squad! And to touch upon the Batgirl idea... I've been feeling for a while there's not really many female characters out there that aren't extremely girly (Winx Club, Bratz, Barbi as random examples). And then on the flip side, a lot of other female characters tend to get overly sexualized, or in modt boys entertainment, religated to secondary or supporting characters, and never really get to shine. I feel that an action series that's handled somewhat seriously (and by seriously, I don't mean devoid of humor. Just approached with the same kind of mindset and commitment that Young Justice or JLU is), with an all female cast could have an all female cast, and be open to girla *and* boys. I choose this cast, not based on because I like Steph (I do!), but because I think it *does* have the ability to stand on it's own. You've got Oracle, standing in as the seasoned mentor. Handicapped on top of that. Huntress as the former student and current pro (Sort of the Nightwing to Barbara's Batman), and also serves to cause friction for our protagonist, the newest Batgirl. If we were to use Cassandra (Who is a more interesting character, I'll admit), it would be increadibly hard to build a series around a mute assasin. If we backtracked further for Babs donning Batgirl for the first time, it would be really hard for her without Batman becoming a major character. (I'm not opposed to Batman's presence, but I just want him to be an omnipresence. "The Shadow of the Bat" if you will. When he's in, he tends to take control and becomes a major character. YJ manages to avoid that since Batman isn't the only character over them.
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I'd love to see an xforce movie, with a possible Domino movie and not about the bounty hunter. I want to see a Deadpool movie. This new spiderman movie looks promising as I hate Tobey as Peter Parker, worst casting call, Jake Gyllenhaal would of been my vote. And Eric Foreman as Venom... Brock Lesner more like it. I would love to see assiting movies to the Avengers aside from the obvious IM3,THOR2 and possible capt 2. A BlackWidow, Hawkeye,goliath/antman/wasp film, and a black pather movie. Other marvel ideas would include cloak and dagger, Thanos. A new silver surfer movie. A 90's Jim Lee style x-men series with giant sentinels, and the danger room ... GOD YES!!
I heard about Akira getting made into a movie but they're not doing the signature bike and using some white guy lol. I would love to see a Tim Burton TV show of some kind, would love to see the Muppet show come back, and bring back TGIF!! that is all. |
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Agreed Awesome idea.
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Super Hero Squad was quite a riot. Here's two pictures for Tiny Titans.
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@LXL Guy
Thanks for that!
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No problem. Something aimed at kinds that just seems fun ya know.
Let's see here, other adaptions I wouldn't mind is an Invincible cartoon but maybe toned down on the violence. It's got a good story going for it after all (at least I think so). |
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There's also Ghost Rider (who's getting a sequel) and Jonah Hex, to add to your list, Jetty.
As for adaptations I'd like to see, Neil Gaiman's Sandman would be cool (if directed by Tim Burton and starring Johhny Depp as Dream & Helena Bonham Carter as Death). I wouldn't mind seeing the Thunderbolts as a series or movie, either. And I'm definitely with Snow as far as a Marvel Civil War movie is concerned.
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One of my favorite Deviant Artists (AmericanNinjaX) had an idea for a Batmanless Batgirl series of his own:
Batgirl Harley Quinn Catwoman Poison Ivy Clayface Penguin Gotta say. Best use of Penguin... ever.
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I both need and want a moon knight movie.
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I don't know about making it big, but I would LOVE to see an animated movie for Old Man Logan.
But one of my biggest wishes for a film; if the Avengers movie is successful and all the individual character films continue to be successful and they build up the whole Marvel Universe on film and audiences are familiar with everyone, CIVIL WAR. I appreciate nods to these events during an anime film/series more than an actual attempt at recreating the magic of the book itself. Take the upcoming season 2 of Avengers: EMH. They are giving a nod to the Secret Invasion, but it wont be anywhere near the book (which is actually a good thing, book didn't do great, IMO). Same with the new JL: Doom. The nod to story elements of JLA: Tower of babel is appreciated. I didn't like the Batman/Superman: Public Enemies as much as I could have mostly because the internal monologue of Bruce and Clark from the book wasn't going to ever be full realized in animated format. Would have ruined the flow of the anime and yet it detracted from the story IMO. Same with Planet Hulk. The book is one of my favorite comic stories, I was disappointed with the movie. Many of my favorite moments were removed for pacing and it just didn't seem right. Yet Hulk vs series thoroughly entertained me. More than anything, I appreciate when a film adaptation does something new with a story and just provides long time fans with nods to those things that made those characters fan favorites over the years in comics. Just my take.
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One of my favorite Deviant Artists (AmericanNinjaX) had an idea for a Batmanless Batgirl series of his own:
Batgirl Harley Quinn Catwoman Poison Ivy Clayface Penguin Gotta say. Best use of Penguin... ever. http://themarsjohntravolta.deviantart.com/gallery/ Last edited by DogFashionDisco; 11-03-2011 at 06:07 PM.. |
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Not bad work, but I was never a big fan of that "Teen Titans" look. I have some really old stuff on there too, look up TheMarsJohnTravolta sometime.
theMarsJohnTravolta's deviantART Gallery
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