The Wrestling Thread?

Fortune · 10-15-2011, 12:57 PM

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I think their biggest problem is their writting/ booking, but maybe that will shange now that Russo is out.

Oh yeah, I know, that's what I meant when I said he was all done.

Yeah there booking leaves a lot to be desired.

BlackMagnus · 10-15-2011, 01:06 PM

They have the talent, they just don't know what to do with it.

Fortune · 10-15-2011, 01:10 PM

Some of their best talent is just underused. I often times find myself thinking "darn they deserve to sign with wwe" . Speaking of which I really hope John Morrison resigns with WWE

BlackMagnus · 10-15-2011, 01:30 PM

Wasn't he just on RAW this week? He got jumped at the end of his match with Christian by Larygitis' new cronies.

Fortune · 10-15-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackMagnus

Wasn't he just on RAW this week? He got jumped at the end of his match with Christian by Larygitis' new cronies.

Yeah he was. But his contract ends soon and there has been a lot of talk about him not being too happy and also he hasnt won a match in forever :/ other rumors are stating hes getting held back due to problems Melina caused back when she was with WWE. (Melina and JoMo are dating for those who dont know)

BlackMagnus · 10-15-2011, 01:50 PM

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Yeah he was. But his contract ends soon and there has been a lot of talk about him not being too happy and also he hasnt won a match in forever :/ other rumors are stating hes getting held back due to problems Melina caused back when she was with WWE. (Melina and JoMo are dating for those who dont know)

Ohh shit, I forgot about that stuff Melina got herself into. He should've known it would bite him in that ass in one way or another, not saying that what they (WWE) are doing is right, just no surprise. Remember Kat and the King?

CLASSIFIED · 10-17-2011, 07:15 AM

If Morrison resigns I hope they stop making him job all the time.

I wouldn't mind Morrison, MVP, and Carlito signing with TNA, and maybe with the right head writer giving WWE a run for their money.

Do Boy · 10-17-2011, 07:24 AM

Did you guys here Billy Corgan is starting his own pro wrestling show?

Fortune · 10-17-2011, 10:22 AM

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Ohh shit, I forgot about that stuff Melina got herself into. He should've known it would bite him in that ass in one way or another, not saying that what they (WWE) are doing is right, just no surprise. Remember Kat and the King?

Yeah there was someone else more recently I just can't remember who. I know thats what they say is happening with Drew Macintyre

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If Morrison resigns I hope they stop making him job all the time.

I wouldn't mind Morrison, MVP, and Carlito signing with TNA, and maybe with the right head writer giving WWE a run for their money.

If they got those three they may as well grab Luke Gallows while they are at it. Speaking of which. WWE needs to sign Colt Cobana

BlackMagnus · 10-17-2011, 11:32 AM

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Did you guys here Billy Corgan is starting his own pro wrestling show?

I hope its a smash.

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Yeah there was someone else more recently I just can't remember who. I know thats what they say is happening with Drew Macintyre

If they got those three they may as well grab Luke Gallows while they are at it. Speaking of which. WWE needs to sign Colt Cobana

What's happening with Drew?

Fortune · 10-17-2011, 11:43 AM

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What's happening with Drew?

Exactly. Bassicly hes gotten buried so far down its not even funny.

Do Boy · 10-17-2011, 11:54 AM

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I hope its a smash.

I see what you did there

BlackMagnus · 10-17-2011, 12:08 PM

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I see what you did there

Perfect time of year to be smashing as well.

Fortune · 10-17-2011, 12:33 PM

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Perfect time of year to be smashing as well.

Hope its a ...smashing good time. Man I love puns!

CLASSIFIED · 10-17-2011, 03:01 PM

Drew and JoMo should definitely get monster pushes once their punishments are over.

Look at Trips, he got the most monster of all pushes after he got out of the corner, and I'd wager the same will be said with JoMo if he re-signs.

Unless they decide to Punk him like they did Punk, tease the fans with a main event super run, and then have some one who hasn't wrestled in a year go over him at the pay per view.

Bound for Glory sounds like it was disappointing after the review I read. What was the point of the BfG series and lead up to the big show with out the pay off, or even a clean finish?

At least Hogan fans got to mark out one more time.

Maybe Hogan re-signed for a big money 1 last match deal and is now free to re-sign with WWE in time for their new network. He can be the un-corruptable new COO they get to replace Laurinitis after Survivor Series.

Fortune · 10-17-2011, 03:09 PM

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Drew and JoMo should definitely get monster pushes once their punishments are over.

Look at Trips, he got the most monster of all pushes after he got out of the corner, and I'd wager the same will be said with JoMo if he re-signs.

Unless they decide to Punk him like they did Punk, tease the fans with a main event super run, and then have some one who hasn't wrestled in a year go over him at the pay per view.

Bound for Glory sounds like it was disappointing after the review I read. What was the point of the BfG series and lead up to the big show with out the pay off, or even a clean finish?

At least Hogan fans got to mark out one more time.

Maybe Hogan re-signed for a big money 1 last match deal and is now free to re-sign with WWE in time for their new network. He can be the un-corruptable new COO they get to replace Laurinitis after Survivor Series.

Yeah from what I have read of BFG I didnt miss much. I am also very dissapointed Bobby lost. He should have won

BlackMagnus · 10-17-2011, 03:10 PM

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Maybe Hogan re-signed for a big money 1 last match deal and is now free to re-sign with WWE in time for their new network. He can be the un-corruptable new COO they get to replace Laurinitis after Survivor Series.

Oh for the love of God, please no!!!

Fortune · 10-17-2011, 03:12 PM

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Oh for the love of God, please no!!!

His inclusion on WWE All Stars def has fans thinking he may return.

CLASSIFIED · 10-17-2011, 03:16 PM

Given the build up for the event, he should have won.

TNA is supposed to be the alternative, so why keep having established guys go over the home grown talent?

Had Roode won, it would have legitimatized TNA as an alternative that already likely appeals to smart marks more than casual fans. The smart marks would have thought it was safe to sell TNA on line again, and the buzz might have lured more casual WWE fans into sampling the product.

@Magnus, are you a Hulkamaniac? I am, and I'd love to see him back where he belongs. With the right writer/ booker he could pull off a long term, baby face/ effectual GM for Raw without hijacking every episode while still putting more butts into seats.

Fortune · 10-17-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

Given the build up for the event, he should have won.

TNA is supposed to be the alternative, so why keep having established guys go over the home grown talent?

Had Roode won, it would have legitimatized TNA as an alternative that already likely appeals to smart marks more than casual fans. The smart marks would have thought it was safe to sell TNA on line again, and the buzz might have lured more casual WWE fans into sampling the product.

@Magnus, are you a Hulkamaniac? I am, and I'd love to see him back where he belongs. With the right writer/ booker he could pull off a long term, baby face/ effectual GM for Raw without hijacking every episode while still putting more butts into seats.

Bobby roode deserves better. He is one of the best Talents they have and I feel confident saying he is THE best home grown talent they have. He deserved that win. As far as Hogan goes I would not mind seeing a WWE return. It would see like a win all around if you ask me.

BlackMagnus · 10-17-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortune

His inclusion on WWE All Stars def has fans thinking he may return.

This is not good news. Him always having creative control is not a good sign of things to come if this indeed does happen.

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

Given the build up for the event, he should have won.

TNA is supposed to be the alternative, so why keep having established guys go over the home grown talent?

Had Roode won, it would have legitimatized TNA as an alternative that already likely appeals to smart marks more than casual fans. The smart marks would have thought it was safe to sell TNA on line again, and the buzz might have lured more casual WWE fans into sampling the product.

@Magnus, are you a Hulkamaniac? I am, and I'd love to see him back where he belongs. With the right writer/ booker he could pull off a long term, baby face/ effectual GM for Raw without hijacking every episode while still putting more butts into seats.

I was but, that was a long time ago. Hogan, IMO, hasn't helped TNA. It's more of the same old shit, with him being the center of attention. It has been that way since he signed up with them. It was cool at first but, he did what everyone thought he would and made it about himself. I did used to be a Hulkamanic, after finding out how Terry does business and just as a person, I've lost the love I had as a kid. I would love to see Paul Heyman become the new COO/GM.

Fortune · 10-17-2011, 03:24 PM

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This is not good news.

I was but, that was a long time ago. Hogan, IMO, hasn't helped TNA. It's more of the same old shit, with him being the center of attention. It has been that way since he signed up with them. It was cool at first but, he did what everyone thought he would and made it about himself. I did used to be a Hulkamanic, after finding out how Terry does business and just as a person, I've lost the love I had as a kid. I would love to see Paul Heyman become the new COO/GM.

Yeah I agree TNA doesnt seem like a fit for him but the same gimmicks over there may feel a lot better on WWE being thats bassicly his home.

CLASSIFIED · 10-17-2011, 03:42 PM

I don't think Roode is the best home grown talent TNA has as he lacks a bit in the personality department.

Daniels and Styles are both more complete packages IMO.

Don't get me wrong; I would have loved to see him go over at BFG and think it would have been the right decision from a business/ story telling perspective, but he isn't the best IMO.

I prefer not to believe everything I hear about Terry the man, because I know nothing about what its like in the business and believe a certain amount of it is fueled by jealousy.

Face it, a lot of wrestlers; the Nasty's, Beefcake, the Hammer among others practically depend on him, and he, I think, does his best to help them continue on.

BlackMagnus · 10-17-2011, 03:49 PM

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I don't think Roode is the best home grown talent TNA has as he lacks a bit in the personality department.

Daniels and Styles are both more complete packages IMO.

Don't get me wrong; I would have loved to see him go over at BFG and think it would have been the right decision from a business/ story telling perspective, but he isn't the best IMO.

I prefer not to believe everything I hear about Terry the man, because I know nothing about what its like in the business and believe a certain amount of it is fueled by jealousy.

Face it, a lot of wrestlers; the Nasty's, Beefcake, the Hammer among others practically depend on him, and he, I think, does his best to help them continue on.

I just wish he did the same thing for the new, young up and coming coming talent as he does for his buddies. Everyone wants to come down on HHH for having stroke but, I don't see him doing the shit Hogan does. And as far as Terry the person, I don't know how the business is either but, the resentment he gets from the lockerroom I do. Some of it may be jealousy sure but, there is always some underlying truth to what has been/continues to be said. Do you follow Warrior on YouTube?

CLASSIFIED · 10-17-2011, 03:55 PM

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Do you follow Warrior on YouTube?

I've tried, but he's a little hard to follow.

I prefer his promo work to his anti-Hogan tirades.

Did you see the Warrior DVD WWE released a few years back?

From a fan perspective; I love them both, and wish wrestlers in general would get past their personal differences, come together, and contribute to the business in a meaningful way for the sake of the fans like us.

10-17-2011, 07:15 AM	#57
CLASSIFIED Santa Claus Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 2,400	If Morrison resigns I hope they stop making him job all the time. I wouldn't mind Morrison, MVP, and Carlito signing with TNA, and maybe with the right head writer giving WWE a run for their money. __________________

10-17-2011, 03:01 PM	#65
CLASSIFIED Santa Claus Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 2,400	Drew and JoMo should definitely get monster pushes once their punishments are over. Look at Trips, he got the most monster of all pushes after he got out of the corner, and I'd wager the same will be said with JoMo if he re-signs. Unless they decide to Punk him like they did Punk, tease the fans with a main event super run, and then have some one who hasn't wrestled in a year go over him at the pay per view. Bound for Glory sounds like it was disappointing after the review I read. What was the point of the BfG series and lead up to the big show with out the pay off, or even a clean finish? At least Hogan fans got to mark out one more time. Maybe Hogan re-signed for a big money 1 last match deal and is now free to re-sign with WWE in time for their new network. He can be the un-corruptable new COO they get to replace Laurinitis after Survivor Series. __________________

10-17-2011, 03:16 PM	#69
CLASSIFIED Santa Claus Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 2,400	Given the build up for the event, he should have won. TNA is supposed to be the alternative, so why keep having established guys go over the home grown talent? Had Roode won, it would have legitimatized TNA as an alternative that already likely appeals to smart marks more than casual fans. The smart marks would have thought it was safe to sell TNA on line again, and the buzz might have lured more casual WWE fans into sampling the product. @Magnus, are you a Hulkamaniac? I am, and I'd love to see him back where he belongs. With the right writer/ booker he could pull off a long term, baby face/ effectual GM for Raw without hijacking every episode while still putting more butts into seats. __________________

10-17-2011, 03:42 PM	#73
CLASSIFIED Santa Claus Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 2,400	I don't think Roode is the best home grown talent TNA has as he lacks a bit in the personality department. Daniels and Styles are both more complete packages IMO. Don't get me wrong; I would have loved to see him go over at BFG and think it would have been the right decision from a business/ story telling perspective, but he isn't the best IMO. I prefer not to believe everything I hear about Terry the man, because I know nothing about what its like in the business and believe a certain amount of it is fueled by jealousy. Face it, a lot of wrestlers; the Nasty's, Beefcake, the Hammer among others practically depend on him, and he, I think, does his best to help them continue on. __________________

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CLASSIFIED Santa Claus Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 2,400	Quote: Originally Posted by BlackMagnus Do you follow Warrior on YouTube? I've tried, but he's a little hard to follow. I prefer his promo work to his anti-Hogan tirades. Did you see the Warrior DVD WWE released a few years back? From a fan perspective; I love them both, and wish wrestlers in general would get past their personal differences, come together, and contribute to the business in a meaningful way for the sake of the fans like us. __________________