[Crazy Jetty]

I think you're taking it too seriously. It's one thing to be a bit worried about a movie before it comes out based on what you've heard, it's another thing entirely to say a movie you know almost nothing about totally fails, based on a couple pictures.

I was nervous about the first TF movie. Didn't like what I'd been hearing or seeing. But actually seeing it, it wasn't *that* bad. Certainly not badly enough to merrit all the angst and worry I put myself through.
RotF I hated what I'd heard and seen. But I still went with an open mind. Only it was as bad as I feared.
Point being, I'm no longer interested in the third TF movie. I don't plan on seeing it. But I'm no longer bothering to openly critisize and put it down, and worry myself a new ulcer over it, or boycott it and try to take away someone else's enjoyment of it.
I see nothing to gain by subjecting myself to that.

So I no longer understand why other people do, when they feel a movie is going to be bad.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Yeah, but none of those characters had to swing from skyscraper to skyscraper. I already saw another picture of the Spider-man reboot webslinging only 10 feet off the ground on to a truck. They have to do live-action because it cost too much for speacial effects. They are already saying the movie is full of High School angst. I'll pass on that to.

What you see, and what's in the final movie are two different things.

Berating them for having a guy swinging from a safe distance so as not to get hurt like the actors in the musical, is not a bad thing. That doesn't mean it'll look like that in the final.

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

I think you're taking it too seriously. It's one thing to be a bit worried about a movie before it comes out based on what you've heard, it's another thing entirely to say a movie you know almost nothing about, based on a couple pictures.

I was nervous about the first TF movie. Didn't like what I'd been hearing or seeing. But actually seeing it, it wasn't *that* bad. Certainly not badly enough to merrit all the angst and worry I put myself through.
RotF I hated what I'd heard and seen. But I still went with an open mind. Only it was as bad as I feared.
Point being, I'm no longer interested in the third TF movie. I don't plan on seeing it. But I'm no longer bothering to openly critisize and put it down, and worry myself a new ulcer over it, or boycott it and try to take away someone else's enjoyment of it.
I see nothing to gain by subjecting myself to that.

So I no longer understand why other people do, when they feel a movie is going to be bad.

Everyone has their opinion. I'm not worried about it, because I'm not going to see it. Not until the BituummDVD comes out. That's going to save me a lot of stress. btw, Loved Transformers 1 and 2 saw both 6 times in theaters, Can't wait for 3 to come out. I don't care how many fanboys say they hated it, I still loved it and most other non-fanboys to. I hope you all enjoy X-men FC and Spider-man. My opinion is solely based on Spider-man 3, X-men 3, and Wolverine origins. That's 3 movies I really didn't like, except for Ryan Renold's 12 secs as Wade Wilson. Can you blame me for being skeptical about the companys that are making X-men FC and Spider-man reboot? DID you guys watch the Shartimus Prime video? I got the idea from him.

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

What you see, and what's in the final movie are two different things.

Berating them for having a guy swinging from a safe distance so as not to get hurt like the actors in the musical, is not a bad thing. That doesn't mean it'll look like that in the final.

In my opinion, Spider-man 2 was the Best Spider-man movie. It really captured all of Spider-man's abilities. I don't want to see anything less then what I saw in 1 and 2. Since there is a huge chance that it won't be like that, I'm just saving myself some disappointment.

[Crazy Jetty]

No, I didn't, because I don't have an internet connection capable of handling youtube, or any other kind of video media.
I live in a rural area, and as thus am forbidden by net companies from ever having broadband or DSL, and the only satillite company willing to do business with me charges more than I can afford.
Seriously. Not even DirecTV, which I purchase and has no problem providing me with satillite TV, will allow my area satillite internet service. Even though it's supossedly THROUGH THE SAME SYSTEM.
But all of that is neither here, nor there, and irrellivent to the subject.
Just... I can never ever again share in the bliss of watching movie trailers and such, without going to the movies.

Back on topic, the post I made that you referrence wasn't intended specifically for you, but was a generalized statement to everyone who's taking it too seriously.
Though, in all honesty, calling for a boycott would indeed be taking it too seriously in my book.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

In my opinion, Spider-man 2 was the Best Spider-man movie. It really captured all of Spider-man's abilities. I don't want to see anything less then what I saw in 1 and 2. Since there is a huge chance that it won't be like that, I'm just saving myself some disappointment.

X-Men 3 wasn't handled by vaughn or singer. So those complaints are already moot.

Spider-Man 3's issues were sony and avi arad's interference trying to please fans who wanted venom. Hmm, there's that thing again, trying to please fans made a crappy movie. Though to be fair, it was a launching pad movie intended to give venom his own spin-off which has since died. Original Spidey 4 was going to have vulture and blackcat, but sony interfered again...
This one so far, while I'm not thrilled by the lack of blackcat, has much room it can still do. People tend to forget that blue screen sets in soundstages can do a lot more than just CG. It's just as easy to do the dangerous stunts in that with foam blocks and matts of that color then just superimpose actual buildings and locations in. Hollywood has been doing that for a long time. So really, this needs to wait and see a trailer for. As it is, it seems to be more comic accurate with Gwen Stacey, mechanical webshooters, and more. Granted, I'm not thrilled at a reboot this early on when there were still stories to tell in the other, but at least with a new director and cast, the budget is managable. Marc Webb is far cheaper than Raimi, so more money is going towards aspects of the film as opposed to the director's pocket book. Ditto to a whole new cast. Now in raimi's case though, if it meant no Sony interference in his vision finally, he probably would have considered a pay cut, but since sony isn't apt to do that for him... Getting paid less, and having zero control on what you're making as spidey 3 has proven, makes a crappy movie and would suck. Sadly, it banked so well at the box office though, that sony doesn't see that. So don't punish the new guy, for sony's mistake. Spidey 3 is what should have been boycotted, but even then, sony would have blamed raimi and not their interference, because they tried to please fans, so surely that couldn't have been the issue...

So for spidey, wait for the trailer. With things like the Lizard, Peter making the webshooters, and more in it, we may see some interesting more comic like scenes and situational humor, like him running out of web fluid high up. Though then again with this being a rebooted origin, we may get stuff like he's still afraid of heights, and testing the web shooters, which I hope is a path they don't take. It'd be easier just to do the blue screen stage foam blocks like I said before. Only the trailer will show for sure.

I mean it's not like you saw them filming spider-man 2's train scene among others out in the open. Or many of the other scenes from 1 and 3.

As for XFC, as I said, new director, new writers, working closely with singer. This movie has a lot going for it. Complaining about XMO or X3 compared to this is moot. Vaughn is the same guy who brought us the marvelous choreography in Kick-ass. Can't wait to see what he's got in store with people that actually have powers. Could it be bad? Yes, but so could any movie. I'm just glad they are making it a cohesive world. Much akin to an alternate universe mini-series that's reachable by all even those who don't read comics or know of the 50 year history of X-Men. Besides, it's not like Ultimate X-Men had scott and them as the first class either, and that comic sold well enough. Without the expensive set pieces, more money can go to the effects for the powers. So it should prove interesting. I tend to prefer a cohesive world movie serial anyway. This way I don't feel like having the others is useless. It'd be like having all 3 LOTR movies not being related to each other. It's just nicer to have a full world of events in these movies as opposed to having each new one some reboot that just doesn't care about the previous. It'd be like reading a comic book that ignored the issue before it. If that's the case, why should you have even bothered with the one before it? That's wasted money.

Besides, the Fox-Men universe can be salvaged with good stories. Even Deadpool's movie is going to be in universe to it. As for Deadpool in XMO wolverine, well if they had done him any other way, Deadpool would have stolen the show. The movie was called XMO: WOLVERINE. Not XMO: Deadpool.

The new one from Arnofski looks like it'll shape up well too. Much more comic accuracy by director choice, and not forced on him by studio's or fans. I rather have the director's do their vision instead of getting interfered with. Interference is what creates stuff like Spider-man 3, and X-men 3.

As a last note though, why should any studio bow to the whims of fans who never intended to pay to see the movies anyway? That makes about as much sense as marvel taking comic advice from people who pirate their comics.

[firmpulse]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Though then again with this being a rebooted origin, we may get stuff like he's still afraid of heights, and testing the web shooters, which I hope is a path they don't take.

i agree. i'd like to see it handled a bit like batman begins. have peter reflecting back on how he began. open the film with a bang and pepper the action with flashbacks.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

i agree. i'd like to see it handled a bit like batman begins. have peter reflecting back on how he began. open the film with a bang and pepper the action with flashbacks.

I'm with you on that one.
Because seriously, at this point who doesn't know spider-man's origin, or for that matter superman's. We don't need to see a third of a movie shoe-horning it down our throat. While I tend to detest Batman Begins, it did get that right, as did the Norton hulk movie, and heck even Batman: Mask of the phantasm.

[firmpulse]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

I'm with you on that one.
Because seriously, at this point who doesn't know spider-man's origin, or for that matter superman's.

truth

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

X-Men 3 wasn't handled by vaughn or singer. So those complaints are already moot.

Spider-Man 3's issues were sony and avi arad's interference trying to please fans who wanted venom. Hmm, there's that thing again, trying to please fans made a crappy movie. Though to be fair, it was a launching pad movie intended to give venom his own spin-off which has since died. Original Spidey 4 was going to have vulture and blackcat, but sony interfered again...
This one so far, while I'm not thrilled by the lack of blackcat, has much room it can still do. People tend to forget that blue screen sets in soundstages can do a lot more than just CG. It's just as easy to do the dangerous stunts in that with foam blocks and matts of that color then just superimpose actual buildings and locations in. Hollywood has been doing that for a long time. So really, this needs to wait and see a trailer for. As it is, it seems to be more comic accurate with Gwen Stacey, mechanical webshooters, and more. Granted, I'm not thrilled at a reboot this early on when there were still stories to tell in the other, but at least with a new director and cast, the budget is managable. Marc Webb is far cheaper than Raimi, so more money is going towards aspects of the film as opposed to the director's pocket book. Ditto to a whole new cast. Now in raimi's case though, if it meant no Sony interference in his vision finally, he probably would have considered a pay cut, but since sony isn't apt to do that for him... Getting paid less, and having zero control on what you're making as spidey 3 has proven, makes a crappy movie and would suck. Sadly, it banked so well at the box office though, that sony doesn't see that. So don't punish the new guy, for sony's mistake. Spidey 3 is what should have been boycotted, but even then, sony would have blamed raimi and not their interference, because they tried to please fans, so surely that couldn't have been the issue...

So for spidey, wait for the trailer. With things like the Lizard, Peter making the webshooters, and more in it, we may see some interesting more comic like scenes and situational humor, like him running out of web fluid high up. Though then again with this being a rebooted origin, we may get stuff like he's still afraid of heights, and testing the web shooters, which I hope is a path they don't take. It'd be easier just to do the blue screen stage foam blocks like I said before. Only the trailer will show for sure.

I mean it's not like you saw them filming spider-man 2's train scene among others out in the open. Or many of the other scenes from 1 and 3.

As for XFC, as I said, new director, new writers, working closely with singer. This movie has a lot going for it. Complaining about XMO or X3 compared to this is moot. Vaughn is the same guy who brought us the marvelous choreography in Kick-ass. Can't wait to see what he's got in store with people that actually have powers. Could it be bad? Yes, but so could any movie. I'm just glad they are making it a cohesive world. Much akin to an alternate universe mini-series that's reachable by all even those who don't read comics or know of the 50 year history of X-Men. Besides, it's not like Ultimate X-Men had scott and them as the first class either, and that comic sold well enough. Without the expensive set pieces, more money can go to the effects for the powers. So it should prove interesting. I tend to prefer a cohesive world movie serial anyway. This way I don't feel like having the others is useless. It'd be like having all 3 LOTR movies not being related to each other. It's just nicer to have a full world of events in these movies as opposed to having each new one some reboot that just doesn't care about the previous. It'd be like reading a comic book that ignored the issue before it. If that's the case, why should you have even bothered with the one before it? That's wasted money.

Besides, the Fox-Men universe can be salvaged with good stories. Even Deadpool's movie is going to be in universe to it. As for Deadpool in XMO wolverine, well if they had done him any other way, Deadpool would have stolen the show. The movie was called XMO: WOLVERINE. Not XMO: Deadpool.

The new one from Arnofski looks like it'll shape up well too. Much more comic accuracy by director choice, and not forced on him by studio's or fans. I rather have the director's do their vision instead of getting interfered with. Interference is what creates stuff like Spider-man 3, and X-men 3.

As a last note though, why should any studio bow to the whims of fans who never intended to pay to see the movies anyway? That makes about as much sense as marvel taking comic advice from people who pirate their comics.

Ummm OK. I'm too lazy to reply to all that.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Ummm OK. I'm too lazy to reply to all that.

Yeah, it's full of a funny thing called logic.

[firmpulse]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Yeah, it's full of a funny thing called logic.

"logic" we're talkin comic book movies! logikz haz no plases here

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

"logic" we're talkin comic book movies! logikz haz no plases here

LMAO! Yeah, comic books, fanboys, and how they think movies are made is an interesting thing when put together. I don't know what I was thinking bringing logic into this. xD

[nakobass]

I'll say this, X-men First Class will more then likely be the #1 movie at the Box Office that weekend. It really doesn't have any competition, Boycott or Not. I still won't see it, my opinion is too bias to even try to enjoy it now. Beisdes seeing Emma Frost and Sabastian Shaw, I really just don't care about the other characters. When I first heard about this movie, I was all excited to get an X-men movie not dominated by Wolverine. As soon as I saw the line up, that all went to hell.

[Alienweirdo]

I'm probably going to see it first, then complain about it.

[Primacron]

Sometimes I go to see a film not expecting much and I'm pleasantly surprised (Hulk, Iron Man, Transformers). Sometimes I go along expecting alot and am dissapointed (X-men 3, Transformers 2, Spider-Man 3).

Sometimes I go along expecting alot and the film delivers (Spider-Man, Batman Begins, Blade). What this has taught me is to give things a chance, you might just enjoy it.

[ludovicotek]

You can now watch the first trailer for X-Men: First Class

. Looks pretty good to me.

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by ludovicotek

You can now watch the first trailer for X-Men: First Class

. Looks pretty good to me.

I saw it, yeah, I'm going to stick with the boycott. Still don't have a clue why half the characters are even in there. Watched the trailer a few more times, and I'm even less interested in seeing it.
Hopefully after about 3 or 4 more crappy X-men movies, Fox will give the rights back to Marvel.

Maybe then will will get to see Apocalypse, Archangel, Sentinals, Mister Sinister, and maybe the Shi'ar Empire.

At least I can still enjoy Transformer 3, Thor, Captain America, and maybe Green Lantern this Summer.

[Crazy Jetty]

Personally, I feel dragging in an alien empire would destroy anything and everytthing the X-Men would and could set up. Shi'ar... great for comics, good for cartoons, way too over the top for the movies. That is, if you thought X3 went too far away from the message X1 and X2 set up.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by ludovicotek

You can now watch the first trailer for X-Men: First Class

. Looks pretty good to me.

Looks good to me too. So much awesomeness like beast, the hellfire club and more.

[webz]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

X-Men 3 wasn't handled by vaughn or singer. So those complaints are already moot.

Actually... the script was finalized back when Vaughn was still attached to the project. I read a draft before he dropped out that was 99% what was in the final flick. All Ratner added was a few fanservice moments. Ratner was brought into the project a month before principle shooting started.

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Spider-Man 3's issues were sony and avi arad's interference trying to please fans who wanted venom. Hmm, there's that thing again, trying to please fans made a crappy movie. Though to be fair, it was a launching pad movie intended to give venom his own spin-off which has since died. Original Spidey 4 was going to have vulture and blackcat, but sony interfered again...

Venom was the best thing about Spider-Man 3, which is funny considering Raimi HATES the character. Venom was closer in origin and look than any of the previous SM villains. The "humanizing" of Sandman was a JOKE. Also, the Venom movie has NOT died... it's very much alive. I've heard "rumors" about it, but without revealing people who'd rather keep their job, people would just mock me and say, "whatever"... but Sony is VERY interested in pushing the Venom flick forward, especially after the $$$$ made by Fox coz of the Wolverine spin-off. I've heard it'll go bigtime after the Spidey reboot, and be heavily influenced by "Lethal Protector" and "Separation Anxiety"... but the relationship between Brock and the alien will be similar to Toxin.

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

This one so far, while I'm not thrilled by the lack of blackcat, has much room it can still do. People tend to forget that blue screen sets in soundstages can do a lot more than just CG. It's just as easy to do the dangerous stunts in that with foam blocks and matts of that color then just superimpose actual buildings and locations in. Hollywood has been doing that for a long time. So really, this needs to wait and see a trailer for. As it is, it seems to be more comic accurate with Gwen Stacey, mechanical webshooters, and more. Granted, I'm not thrilled at a reboot this early on when there were still stories to tell in the other, but at least with a new director and cast, the budget is managable. Marc Webb is far cheaper than Raimi, so more money is going towards aspects of the film as opposed to the director's pocket book. Ditto to a whole new cast. Now in raimi's case though, if it meant no Sony interference in his vision finally, he probably would have considered a pay cut, but since sony isn't apt to do that for him... Getting paid less, and having zero control on what you're making as spidey 3 has proven, makes a crappy movie and would suck. Sadly, it banked so well at the box office though, that sony doesn't see that. So don't punish the new guy, for sony's mistake. Spidey 3 is what should have been boycotted, but even then, sony would have blamed raimi and not their interference, because they tried to please fans, so surely that couldn't have been the issue...

So for spidey, wait for the trailer. With things like the Lizard, Peter making the webshooters, and more in it, we may see some interesting more comic like scenes and situational humor, like him running out of web fluid high up. Though then again with this being a rebooted origin, we may get stuff like he's still afraid of heights, and testing the web shooters, which I hope is a path they don't take. It'd be easier just to do the blue screen stage foam blocks like I said before. Only the trailer will show for sure.

I mean it's not like you saw them filming spider-man 2's train scene among others out in the open. Or many of the other scenes from 1 and 3.

Costume looks dumb. Webshooters make no sense. A highschool kid can make a compound the 3M company cannot? uh-huh.... suuuuuuuuuure. I'd feel better if the Spectacular Spider-Man writers were involved in the project. They've done the best Spider-Man project in decades.

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

As for XFC, as I said, new director

Not quite... see above...

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

new writers, working closely with singer. This movie has a lot going for it. Complaining about XMO or X3 compared to this is moot. Vaughn is the same guy who brought us the marvelous choreography in Kick-ass. Can't wait to see what he's got in store with people that actually have powers. Could it be bad? Yes, but so could any movie. I'm just glad they are making it a cohesive world. Much akin to an alternate universe mini-series that's reachable by all even those who don't read comics or know of the 50 year history of X-Men. Besides, it's not like Ultimate X-Men had scott and them as the first class either, and that comic sold well enough. Without the expensive set pieces, more money can go to the effects for the powers. So it should prove interesting. I tend to prefer a cohesive world movie serial anyway. This way I don't feel like having the others is useless. It'd be like having all 3 LOTR movies not being related to each other. It's just nicer to have a full world of events in these movies as opposed to having each new one some reboot that just doesn't care about the previous. It'd be like reading a comic book that ignored the issue before it. If that's the case, why should you have even bothered with the one before it? That's wasted money.

Besides, the Fox-Men universe can be salvaged with good stories. Even Deadpool's movie is going to be in universe to it. As for Deadpool in XMO wolverine, well if they had done him any other way, Deadpool would have stolen the show. The movie was called XMO: WOLVERINE. Not XMO: Deadpool.

Ryan Reynolds and Schuler-Donner both have said that the Deadpool movie will be independent of the XMO:Wolverine of Deadpool, and much closer to the comics.

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

The new one from Arnofski looks like it'll shape up well too. Much more comic accuracy by director choice, and not forced on him by studio's or fans. I rather have the director's do their vision instead of getting interfered with. Interference is what creates stuff like Spider-man 3, and X-men 3.

As a last note though, why should any studio bow to the whims of fans who never intended to pay to see the movies anyway? That makes about as much sense as marvel taking comic advice from people who pirate their comics.

Spider-Man 3 made more money than the previous films, same with X3, so studio interference is moot, since obviously they know what they are doing, coz it makes mooolah. Fans demanded Venom (3 to 1 in most magazine and online polls) and they got a fairly faithful version of Venom in movie wasted by a crappy Black Suit story involving a retarded Sandman.

X3 got rushed, and was trying to be everything to too many, and failed. In it's defense, it's the closest to the modern X comics of the three films: Too many characters, zero development, and all flash.

[LUCKYDUBE]

Was that Nightcrawler I saw?

[Saint Phe]

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Originally Posted by LUCKYDUBE

Was that Nightcrawler I saw?

Nightcrawler's dad, I think.

I think this movie might be really enjoyable. I certainly like what I've seen so far.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by webz

Actually... the script was finalized back when Vaughn was still attached to the project. I read a draft before he dropped out that was 99% what was in the final flick. All Ratner added was a few fanservice moments. Ratner was brought into the project a month before principle shooting started.


Venom was the best thing about Spider-Man 3, which is funny considering Raimi HATES the character. Venom was closer in origin and look than any of the previous SM villains. The "humanizing" of Sandman was a JOKE. Also, the Venom movie has NOT died... it's very much alive. I've heard "rumors" about it, but without revealing people who'd rather keep their job, people would just mock me and say, "whatever"... but Sony is VERY interested in pushing the Venom flick forward, especially after the $$$$ made by Fox coz of the Wolverine spin-off. I've heard it'll go bigtime after the Spidey reboot, and be heavily influenced by "Lethal Protector" and "Separation Anxiety"... but the relationship between Brock and the alien will be similar to Toxin.



Costume looks dumb. Webshooters make no sense. A highschool kid can make a compound the 3M company cannot? uh-huh.... suuuuuuuuuure. I'd feel better if the Spectacular Spider-Man writers were involved in the project. They've done the best Spider-Man project in decades.

Not quite... see above...
Ryan Reynolds and Schuler-Donner both have said that the Deadpool movie will be independent of the XMO:Wolverine of Deadpool, and much closer to the comics.


Spider-Man 3 made more money than the previous films, same with X3, so studio interference is moot, since obviously they know what they are doing, coz it makes mooolah. Fans demanded Venom (3 to 1 in most magazine and online polls) and they got a fairly faithful version of Venom in movie wasted by a crappy Black Suit story involving a retarded Sandman.

X3 got rushed, and was trying to be everything to too many, and failed. In it's defense, it's the closest to the modern X comics of the three films: Too many characters, zero development, and all flash.

Not going to argue X3, but if I was, I'd point out that even if vaughn was on board for the script, he wasn't there to execute his vision, which is the exact problem to the script when you change hands so many times, though again not going to argue accuracy to the x-men comics for being all flash and no substance as marvel is pioneering that quite well in the comics, so there is no defense. Spider-man 3 on the other hand is far away from comics accuracy. It's animated series accuracy you're refering to. (Secret wars couldn't have been done on screen anyway.) Yup, even ROTF banked quite well, but does that make it a great movie? Though yes I enjoyed it. Spider-man 3 on the other hand was going to draw in a crowd no matter what after the first 2, expectations were high. No review could have stopped that. Now if they didn't interfere for the sake of a spin-off, we could have had a semi decent venom, and better usage later, as opposed to just shoe horning it into an already made script that previously used vulture.

Part of the problem with venom is how he was shoe-horned in to appease fans, while the church scene was accurate and even decent, the rest not so much. That being said, I still would have prefered Raimi's 4, and the venom spin-off that the series was going to have instead of this reboot, but the reboot does indeed look promising so I'll give it a chance. This reboot craze though has got to stop in general.

As for Deadpool those who have read the script, and even Ryan Reynolds himself has said it ties to it, but is still comic accurate. They will deal with XMO:Wolverine in a Deadpool fashion. Not ignore it or be independant of it. So yes it will cover that bit, but no, it won't be tied to it as the end all be all of deadpool. A good film can do both. Just look at the wolverine. It's going independant, yet in a way is still tied to XMO:W. With Logan's amnesia, there's no reason to constantly reference the first one anyway though. So they are free in the clear to do it as they see fit.

[nakobass]

I really hope you guys enjoy the movie. The simple reason why I will not see this movie is because I just don't care about any of the characters in the movie. We have already seen Prof X and Magneto in 3 other movies. We know how it all ends up. What's the point. Making X-men 4 with all new characters would have made more sense. Forget comic book accurate, this isn't even accurate to the 4 other movies that already came out.

X1 Beast was on TV in Human form. Xarvier said Cyclops and Jean were his first students.
Prof X didn't know Magneto had a Helmit to block his powers.
X3 Prof X and Magneto recruited Jean and were still on good terms.
XW Prof X was standing when he met Cyclops

The Trailer alone contradicts everything above. If they make an X-men 4, I'll give that a chance, but not this.