Agents of SHIELD

MegaPrime33 · 03-10-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthGzus33

I've been saying this since Avengers...Coulson is The Vision.

Then why is Paul Bettany playing the Vision?

CMIII · 03-10-2014, 09:15 AM

He may not be the full Vision just a previous version. Vision is a Robot like Brainiac or Terminators. So it's possible that Coulson is a Cyborg

trebleshot · 03-10-2014, 12:05 PM

While that may be, Vision never looked like anyone else and he was completely synthetic. Only his mind was modeled on Simon Williams' brain patterns. It's possible that they could use Coulson's mind in the same way for this iteration of Vision (especially since Williams is apparently not in the next Avengers film).

CMIII · 03-10-2014, 04:36 PM

well Agents of SHIELD is an avenue to introduce Lesser* Characters or Characters they simply do not have time to introduce due to Movie release schedule.

*by lesser I mean characters not strong enough to anchor a movie

Iceman · 03-10-2014, 09:21 PM

Couldn't be Vision as Ultron hasn't even shown up yet. Jarvis becomes Ultron in Avengers 2 and Vision is confirmed to be in that movie and played by someone else.

MegaPrime33 · 03-12-2014, 08:39 AM

We don't know that Jarvis will become Ultron, that has always just been a strong speculation. Since Bettany is playing both characters, there is reason to believe Jarvis will be turned into Vision by Ultron.

CMIII · 03-13-2014, 05:55 PM

I have to admit this weeks episode was one of the best.

Guest Stars

Lady Sif
Quite a bit of Lady Sif's back story was revealed.
Namely who her true loves were, her strength was explored.
Odin sent her after Lorelei???? Loki took the throne in Thor II

Lorelei
Has ability to gain control over Men but talking or with touch
She escaped used Loki's route to Earth
She gave Ward a one Great Gift (I also want one)
Sif Shut her up

As for the Main cast

Ward
Ward got a very special "Gift" from Lorelei (Sign me up

i want a gift too)

Ward has a true love and it's not May (Maybe Skye or Black Widow)

May
Very kick ass she threw Ward through a window
Shes spying on Coulson, for someone who is the question

Coulson
Knows something about what happened and hes going after those that did it, but who is unknown.
Knocked the taste out of the Computer Geek guys mouth.
Admitted he respected Lady Sif

Skye
Did some hacking to find Ward, but was tired of being treated lika an Invalid

trebleshot · 03-14-2014, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CMIII

Odin sent her after Lorelei???? Loki took the throne in Thor II

Odin most likely gave her that mission prior to Loki's "ascension". That, or Loki has plans for Lorelei and needed her back in Asgard first.

The thing to remember about Loki is anything is possible and nothing is guaranteed.

CMIII · 03-14-2014, 05:10 PM

exactly and since we don't know how much time passed on the show since Thor 1 & 2, Avengers, Iron Man 1- 3, Captain America 1 & 2, and Guardians. Heck we could very well be 24-48 hours from the God Spear.

Heck on other shows on ABC Once Upon a Time for example the show did season 1 - 3 (the first 11 episodes) take place over the course of 1 - 3 weeks with the second half of three 1 year later. Heck 24 did a full day in 22 episodes which means the shows time all seasons took place in what less then a weeks (boy that week sucked for Keifer Sutherland's character {I never watched the show})

PROVOST · 03-15-2014, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

Odin most likely gave her that mission prior to Loki's "ascension". That, or Loki has plans for Lorelei and needed her back in Asgard first.

The thing to remember about Loki is anything is possible and nothing is guaranteed.

Very much this. . . .

Exodus · 03-19-2014, 09:44 AM

Check out Deathlok Get a First Look at Deathlok in 11 New Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Images | Marvel.com

Andy Carruthers · 03-19-2014, 10:46 AM

I'll reserve judgement until I see him in action but it doesn't look much like Deathlok.

trebleshot · 03-19-2014, 02:09 PM

I think he'll be just fine if they added the headgear and maybe some visible tech on one of the arms. Maybe that will be an upgrade for when/if he shows up in one of the movies.

Iceman · 03-20-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MegaPrime33

We don't know that Jarvis will become Ultron, that has always just been a strong speculation. Since Bettany is playing both characters, there is reason to believe Jarvis will be turned into Vision by Ultron.

it's all but written in the sky for us. 100% confirmed that Ultron is a Tony Stark creation. A self-aware A.I. that will likely use Stark's armory to mess with the Avengers before revealing himself and the bodies he's built based on Iron Man tech. Has to be Jarvis or a portion of him that splitters of. The press releases, casting, and even scenes from IM3 (deleted and theatrical) all make it 99% certain. I guess they could just be lying about everything without any reason. The Mandarin reveal was about a surprise we wouldn't see coming because it was nothing like any comic, so unless they are actually going to make Hank Pym the creator of Ultron and all of this is to mess with the fans I think you can bet on it.

CMIII · 03-20-2014, 03:19 PM

the cast list is showing different actors will play
Vision - Paul Bettney
Ultron - James Spader

trebleshot · 03-21-2014, 09:25 AM

Maybe Tony tries to create a new AI to pilot the Iron Man suit so he doesn't have to be in it anymore and that's how he comes up with Ultron. Then Ultron goes rogue due to some kind of "I, Robot"-ish programming flaw. Then finding himself defeated by Tony and Jarvis, Ultron turns Jarvis into Vision to cripple Tony, stop the Avengers, kill all humanity and take over the world (Of course!).

Iceman · 03-24-2014, 09:25 PM

Did you guys not see the deleted scenes from Avengers where Jarvis is telling Tony how he doesn't really need the Avengers and that they are dragging him down. A clear set-up for them wanting to use him as Ultron's origin. They cut out and decided that maybe it was too on the nose but it's easy for them to see that Ultron is some version of Jarvis and that's why when he makes Vision is sounds like Jarvis. Maybe they won't have Ultron create Vision though and maybe Tony creates him on his own. Remember when we some people thought Coulson might become Vision?

trebleshot · 03-25-2014, 06:22 AM

You know, there's a reason it's called a deleted scene.

I'd love to discuss it further. However, I don't want to continue to derail this thread with Age of Ultron speculation, so I say we should probably move this discussion over to a separate thread:

http://www.toyark.com/avengers-age-ultron-159963/

CMIII · 04-04-2014, 04:21 PM

For those of you how misunderstood the ending of Agents of SHIELD this week.. The Trailer with Nick Fury driving and the Winter Solider blowing the car is actually the tie in between Captain America and AoS and that was the way it should have ended

Exodus · 04-09-2014, 10:24 AM

Sweet tie in, can't wait to see Maria Hill come back, I think the show would be great if she was a permanent in next season. Glad that Ward is the traitor as well and not May! Didn't think they would kill of Hand though, what's Hands role in the comics?
http://marvel.com/news/tv/2014/4/9/2...ents_of_shield.

Iceman · 04-09-2014, 12:39 PM

I would like to see Hill on the show more, but in uniform. Don't know if it would work with her schedule though.

I really hope they don't try to pull some crap like Ward brainwashed or secretly a good guy. Just keep him Hydra.

Exodus · 04-10-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

I would like to see Hill on the show more, but in uniform. Don't know if it would work with her schedule though.

I really hope they don't try to pull some crap like Ward brainwashed or secretly a good guy. Just keep him Hydra.

My thoughts exactly. Saw the Deathlok episode, boy was a I disappointed, they make him look so weak, just stood there while getting shot at ugh. Not the Deathlok I know, and he kept running from the agents.

CMIII · 04-25-2014, 04:37 PM

Since Hydra took over....

Well the team has gone to hell...
1) Garrett is/was the "Clairvoyant" (no he was a guy with clearence) and he wears bad turtle necks
2) Ward Sided with Hydra only after lip locking Skye a few times but nobody on the Bus knows it, But Ward stole the Bus so
3) Victoria Hand was killed
4) Agent Stillwell was killed (Captain America: The Winter Solider)
5) Phil Coulson has had a rough time since the visited T.A.H.I.T.I and now Hydra has taken over
6) Deathlock disappeared since before The winter solider attack Fury
7) The Cooler has fallen to Hydra. All prisoners released
8) Several mentions of Captain America, Bruce Banner, and The NY Incident
9) Agent Triplet sided with Coulson and is replacing Ward
10) Melinda May was spying for Fury but has left the Team to meet a Maria (Hill or Hand is unknown)
11) Skye discovered that Ward is lying
12) Patton Oswalt plays Agent Koenig and is already dead.

redfox · 04-25-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CMIII

3) Maria Hill was killed.

I think you mean Victoria Hand. Maria is very much alive.

PROVOST · 04-26-2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

I would like to see Hill on the show more, but in uniform. Don't know if it would work with her schedule though.

She is in the next ep

03-10-2014, 09:15 AM	#52
CMIII Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Isla Nublar Posts: 1,778	He may not be the full Vision just a previous version. Vision is a Robot like Brainiac or Terminators. So it's possible that Coulson is a Cyborg __________________ Everyone fears the Mighty Tyrannosaurus....

03-10-2014, 12:05 PM	#53
trebleshot Dark Lord of the 'Ark Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,224	While that may be, Vision never looked like anyone else and he was completely synthetic. Only his mind was modeled on Simon Williams' brain patterns. It's possible that they could use Coulson's mind in the same way for this iteration of Vision (especially since Williams is apparently not in the next Avengers film). __________________

03-10-2014, 04:36 PM	#54
CMIII Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Isla Nublar Posts: 1,778	well Agents of SHIELD is an avenue to introduce Lesser* Characters or Characters they simply do not have time to introduce due to Movie release schedule. *by lesser I mean characters not strong enough to anchor a movie __________________ Everyone fears the Mighty Tyrannosaurus....

03-10-2014, 09:21 PM	#55
Iceman MUtant Overlord Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,754	Couldn't be Vision as Ultron hasn't even shown up yet. Jarvis becomes Ultron in Avengers 2 and Vision is confirmed to be in that movie and played by someone else. __________________ BST

03-13-2014, 05:55 PM	#57
CMIII Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Isla Nublar Posts: 1,778	I have to admit this weeks episode was one of the best. Guest Stars Lady Sif Quite a bit of Lady Sif's back story was revealed. Namely who her true loves were, her strength was explored. Odin sent her after Lorelei???? Loki took the throne in Thor II Lorelei Has ability to gain control over Men but talking or with touch She escaped used Loki's route to Earth She gave Ward a one Great Gift (I also want one) Sif Shut her up As for the Main cast Ward Ward got a very special "Gift" from Lorelei (Sign me up i want a gift too) Ward has a true love and it's not May (Maybe Skye or Black Widow) May Very kick ass she threw Ward through a window Shes spying on Coulson, for someone who is the question Coulson Knows something about what happened and hes going after those that did it, but who is unknown. Knocked the taste out of the Computer Geek guys mouth. Admitted he respected Lady Sif Skye Did some hacking to find Ward, but was tired of being treated lika an Invalid __________________ Everyone fears the Mighty Tyrannosaurus....