AvX Discussion and Speculation

Iceman · 04-13-2012, 04:16 PM

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The difference is that the X-men have never been as stacked as they currently are or as dangerous since they are on the brink of extinction and are willing to go the distance to survive as a race. All in all I'm really looking forward to the fun match ups.

I feel like they are making up for Civil War a little bit since they had the X-Men sitting that one out. The problem in the past was always that Thor was just too much to handle realistically.

bmorr · 04-13-2012, 04:57 PM

speaking about thor, what x-man is strong enough to take on him?

KingLouie731 · 04-13-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

I feel like they are making up for Civil War a little bit since they had the X-Men sitting that one out. The problem in the past was always that Thor was just too much to handle realistically.

and he still is the only folks I could see lasting more than 2 seconds would be Namor, Juggolossus, Rogue, and maybe Warpath.

shortysben · 04-13-2012, 08:45 PM

yeah, I was dissapointed in new avengers # 24...I thought there would be more, but it was just more "heres why its all happening BS...I wish I would have known, or I would be 4 $ richer...

yourfacehere · 04-13-2012, 10:04 PM

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speaking about thor, what x-man is strong enough to take on him?

Wolverine, the resident mary sue as of late. He's like marvel's Batman, it was completely off putting, especially in origins.

Greenskar · 04-13-2012, 10:54 PM

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Cool will get it soon.

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speaking about thor, what x-man is strong enough to take on him?

If the events of X-Sanction hold...I'd say a fully powered uninhibited Cable could at least go toe to toe with him. Cable once broke the Silver Surfer's Board when they clashed.

His technoorganic virus is now apparently healed (courtesy of Hope), however, he has only shown signs of telepathy and not telekenesis as of yet. Up until recently he had claimed his powers had faded away into practically nothing. He was near god-like during parts of the Cable/Deadpool series...i actually hope they dont return him to that level of omnipotence again.

Anyway...as for anyone else...not sure.

bmorr · 04-14-2012, 05:05 AM

oh god, what if Magneto can take control of Thors hammer?

KingLouie731 · 04-14-2012, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

oh god, what if Magneto can take control of Thors hammer?

I believe this has been explored already in an What If? comic

Greenskar · 04-14-2012, 09:49 AM

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oh god, what if Magneto can take control of Thors hammer?

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I believe this has been explored already in an What If? comic

It worked in the ultimates but not 616 continuity. Matter of fact the avengers also beat the Magneto led X-Men years ago.

shortysben · 04-16-2012, 01:28 PM

well I am getting a little excited for AvX #2 and Avengers #25...

bmorr · 04-18-2012, 04:12 PM

both AvX #2 and Avegners #25 came out today annnd......one tidbit came into play with Hope. im not sure where you guys stand on spoilers.

Greenskar · 04-18-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

both AvX #2 and Avegners #25 came out today annnd......one tidbit came into play with Hope. im not sure where you guys stand on spoilers.

Haven't read avengers #25 get but I did read AvX #2 and it was awesome! This shit went full scale fast!

I wouldn't want to ruin stuff either but feel free to IM me if you or anyone else wants to discuss what's happening so far.

Exodus · 04-18-2012, 04:42 PM

I don't mind spoiler's, cause I'll eventually find out sooner or later.

bmorr · 04-18-2012, 05:37 PM

Well ok then. It only took to issue two for hope to start losing control, and the wild card mutants take sides. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver(who punches magneto) also get bring into the story, with leaving it ambiguous which side she is on, even though her journal gives away a confrontation with the Phoenix. Also, Iron Man is apparently now immune to Magneto.

In Avengers, we only get 2 pages of AvX story, while wrapping the AIM power stealing nonsense. No-Varr may be a future problem after his conversation with the Supreme Intelligence.

Greenskar · 04-18-2012, 08:36 PM

Iron man's armor warns him that extreme magnetic fields have been detected and then implements "anti-magnetism safeguards". The next panel follows with a blurb about "Man in a metal suit vs Mutant master if magnetism. If you thought this was no contest then you never met Tony Stark."

Exodus · 04-18-2012, 10:14 PM

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Well ok then. It only took to issue two for hope to start losing control, and the wild card mutants take sides. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver(who punches magneto) also get bring into the story, with leaving it ambiguous which side she is on, even though her journal gives away a confrontation with the Phoenix. Also, Iron Man is apparently now immune to Magneto.

In Avengers, we only get 2 pages of AvX story, while wrapping the AIM power stealing nonsense. No-Varr may be a future problem after his conversation with the Supreme Intelligence.

Yeah I picked those up today and totally disappointed in Avengers cause it was a waste of $ to get since it really didn't show anything of AVX ugh!

On a side note X-Force was wicked! Man I hope this series stays going for a very long time...

bmorr · 04-19-2012, 05:05 AM

its too bad xforce isnt a tie-in. wouldve gave the xmen the added boost of numbers. then again i have no idea who theyd side with. maybe the avengers.

FrankCastle · 04-19-2012, 07:32 AM

Don't forget Wolverine and the X-men guys. It's a tie in as well

bmorr · 04-19-2012, 07:58 AM

yeah im not reading everything, but the other books make it concrete where wolvie stands on this. If you have a synopsis go right on ahead.

Greenskar · 04-19-2012, 09:07 AM

I read WatXM #9 and it was just showing what happened at the Jean Grey school during Cap's visit from the beginning of AvX #1...which wasn't much except blindfold was crying. Which, since she can see the future, implies something really bad is going to happen.

As for Wolverine, he's playing out like I expected he would which was like spidey in civil war. He's an Avenger now but the cover of #3 has him fighting cap, and while covers tend to be misleading almost always, it seems almost certain Wolvie will go back to supporting the X-men at some point, or at least his X-men. Which is where he belongs, IMO.

I'm actually more interested in the New Avengers tie-in where they explain the Immortal Iron fists and the mystical city of Kun Lun's connection with the Phoenix Force.

Exodus · 04-19-2012, 10:59 AM

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its too bad xforce isnt a tie-in. wouldve gave the xmen the added boost of numbers. then again i have no idea who theyd side with. maybe the avengers.

That's probably why they're not including X-Force because they have the school already, plus X-Force is suppose to be the black ops team so no one is suppose to know about it.

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It seems almost certain Wolvie will go back to supporting the X-men at some point, or at least his X-men. Which is where he belongs, IMO.

Agree with you there!

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I'm actually more interested in the New Avengers tie-in where they explain the Immortal Iron fists and the mystical city of Kun Lun's connection with the Phoenix Force.

Agree as well, since one's a bird and the other is a dragon.

KingLouie731 · 04-19-2012, 12:58 PM

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That's probably why they're not including X-Force because they have the school already, plus X-Force is suppose to be the black ops team so no one is suppose to know about it.

Agree with you there!

Agree as well, since one's a bird and the other is a dragon.

if they are the black ops then when things look the worst they should show up to clean up the mess

TheSymbiote · 04-19-2012, 02:14 PM

Has anyone used the Marvel AR app on the cover of AvX #2?

bmorr · 04-19-2012, 02:19 PM

xforce vs. secret avengers. makes sense to me.

Greenskar · 04-19-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KingLouie731

if they are the black ops then when things look the worst they should show up to clean up the mess

X-Force exists to kill enemies that will not let up. In this case...the Threat is the Phoenix Force who is apparently coming to find it's new host, presumably Hope Summers. Wolverine has already attempted to Kill her. Hope is too powerful now to be taken out by a black ops team.

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Has anyone used the Marvel AR app on the cover of AvX #2?

I did. I felt like it was too much like AvX#1 and the novelty has worn off on me already. This app has potential but so far I'm not impressed. Hopefully someone will come up with a clever use for it soon.

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xforce vs. secret avengers. makes sense to me.

I didn't start reading Secret Avengers until Rick Remender took over on Issue 21.1. Did they ever actually kill people?

I mean C'mon, they have Beast on their team. Beast is the same guy who opposes what X-Force represents and does, even though he's finally come to terms with it at the Jean Grey School. I don't feel like these two teams are anything similar at all based on the reading, that's just me though.

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Greenskar Puny Humans Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,342	Quote: Originally Posted by Exodus Cool will get it soon. Quote: Originally Posted by bmorr speaking about thor, what x-man is strong enough to take on him? If the events of X-Sanction hold...I'd say a fully powered uninhibited Cable could at least go toe to toe with him. Cable once broke the Silver Surfer's Board when they clashed. His technoorganic virus is now apparently healed (courtesy of Hope), however, he has only shown signs of telepathy and not telekenesis as of yet. Up until recently he had claimed his powers had faded away into practically nothing. He was near god-like during parts of the Cable/Deadpool series...i actually hope they dont return him to that level of omnipotence again. Anyway...as for anyone else...not sure. __________________ Last edited by Greenskar; 04-13-2012 at 11:06 PM..