[AndyCR75]

Lately it seems that everything Marvel touches turns to gold, but it has to be right. Look at another example..Fantasic 4. I mean it even had "stars" in it and its a popular brand, but they sucked? Did Marvel-lovers dig them? Probably? Mass appeal? Other than Jess Alba, notsomuch.

[Nexodusrex]

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Originally Posted by AndyCR75

Lately it seems that everything Marvel touches turns to gold, but it has to be right. Look at another example..Fantasic 4. I mean it even had "stars" in it and its a popular brand, but they sucked? Did Marvel-lovers dig them? Probably? Mass appeal? Other than Jess Alba, notsomuch.

I'd have to change that and say "Everything Marvel Studios Touches turns to gold"

cause the Studio itself has yet to make a bad movie. all 5 of the avengers movies have been excelent

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

I agree with Nexodusrex.

It depends on how the movies are made as to whether or not they are successful.

This.

It could go any direction. Count me looking forward to see how it pans out though.

You might be surprised at how known the inhumans are also, GotG definitely obscure. Blackbolt and the inhumans? Not as much. They've gotten their fair share of tv show coverage in animated series over the years besides other media recognition.

Stop thinking of them as pure comic adaptions, and think of them as potential space-operas on Star wars like scales, or akin to the original flash gordon, or John Carter. MiB was a relatively completely unknown marvel property too, and just look at how much it broke the bank by bucking the 'superhero' trend. These look to do the same as it or Blade. In fact, GotG is pretty much MiB but in space instead of on earth. So it very well could do phenominally.

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

I'd have to change that and say "Everything Marvel Studios Touches turns to gold"

cause the Studio itself has yet to make a bad movie. all 5 of the avengers movies have been excelent

Punisher Warzone. Made by marvel studios, distro'ed by Lionsgate.

[Boba Fettuccini]

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Originally Posted by AndyCR75

Lately it seems that everything Marvel touches turns to gold, but it has to be right. Look at another example..Fantasic 4. I mean it even had "stars" in it and its a popular brand, but they sucked? Did Marvel-lovers dig them? Probably? Mass appeal? Other than Jess Alba, notsomuch.

I didn't care for them, and I like Marvel. Bad screenplay, bad acting/actors (to an extent) and they totally took all the fun out of Dr Doom.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by Boba Fettuccini

Blade got a trilogy because he plays into the gritty vampire-slaying action genre. I bet most people didn't even know he was Marvel. Same with Hellboy. He only worked because it was funny, and had action and monsters..

Except...there WAS no genre before the Blade movies- hell, it was two years before the first Matrix movie came out!

Pretty badass return for a character that almost none of my friends that loved the Blade movies even knew was a comic book character!

iIf the movie is good, it'll sell. If they just hype a comic connection (like with Jonah Hex or Wolverine, Ghost Rider) and the movie is shit, it'll fail, or at least go down as a horrible horrible movie.

Hell, Soloman Kane, a movie reviewed as really good never even made DVD- at most you can stream it from Netflix! WTF?!?


Look at marvel's movies- if the comic book hype side was the draw, they would have tanked. Captain America is anythng but cool to a non comic person but they made it really great. Same with Thor- give the average person a Thor comic and tell them it'll be a movie and they'll tell you they wont bother....but it was really great and did well.

The flip side of this is Catwoman- DC took the biggest female celebrity on the planet at the time, put her into a skintight costume and it was a turd in a punchbowl.

If Guardians Of the Galaxy has the humor and "Holy shit we're in way over our heads!" tone from the comics, it'll blow the Aengers away and start a whole Marvel Cosmic franchise.

[Nexodusrex]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Punisher Warzone. Made by marvel studios, distro'ed by Lionsgate.

actualyl warzone was done by Valhalla Motion Pictures and had the Marvel Knights logo on it. Marvel Knights isnt the studio. Marvel Studios did not touch Punisher Warzone

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

actualyl warzone was done by Valhalla Motion Pictures and had the Marvel Knights logo on it. Marvel Knights isnt the studio. Marvel Studios did not touch Punisher Warzone

Check again, Marvel Studios as well as Marvel Knights are listed as the production company. Marvel's had the rights back for punisher since before that one was made. (I had to double check myself to make sure.) It still stands as the one lone flub Marvel Studios has made even with Valhalla Motion helping.

Valhalla Motion Pictures had as much involvement in making Punisher War Zone as they did the Ang Lee hulk, and Edward Norton Hulk, both of which are also credited mostly to Marvel Studios like Punisher Warzone is. Well maybe not the Ang Lee one, that one everyone wants to give credit to only Ang Lee for.

Valhalla Motion Pictures
Punisher: War Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Punisher: War Zone (2008) - Company credits

[Nexodusrex]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Check again, Marvel Studios as well as Marvel Knights are listed as the production company. Marvel's had the rights back for punisher since before that one was made. (I had to double check myself to make sure.) It still stands as the one lone flub Marvel Studios has made even with Valhalla Motion helping.

Valhalla Motion Pictures had as much involvement in making Punisher War Zone as they did the Ang Lee hulk, and Edward Norton Hulk, both of which are also credited mostly to Marvel Studios like Punisher Warzone is. Well maybe not the Ang Lee one, that one everyone wants to give credit to only Ang Lee for.

Valhalla Motion Pictures
Punisher: War Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Punisher: War Zone (2008) - Company credits

actually, your wrong. Punisher War Zone did come out in 2008, but Marvel Studios did not regain the Punisher movie License Untill 2010. I remember that specifically because they announced that at the 2010 SDCC.
Heres the proof.
SDCC ’10 | Marvel Studios regains film rights for the Punisher | Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources – Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment
Wikipedia and IMDB arent trustworthy websites because anybody and everybody can edit their information.
If you google "Marvel Studios Regains Punisher Rights", you'll find every article taking place in or after July 2010, with later articles reporting that Marvel Studios also regained the rights to Blade
I will admit that I was wrong about Valhalla. I just grabbed the first company I saw on the Wikipedia website.

that being said, if you do look at the Marvel Studios wikipedia page, it lists Punisher Warzone under Coproductions, which are movies made outside of Marvel Studios primary involvement. includes such films as the x-men films, F4 films, Spiderman trilogy, Daredevil. Thats why those films say "Marvel" in the opening, not "Marvel Studios"

The Five In-House Films they have done, Incredible Hulk Ironman Ironman2 Captain America and Thor, haave all been good movies. But Marvel Studios did not solely make Punisher Warzone, much like they didnt soley make Spiderman or X-Men

Edit : Heres some more links about Marvel regaining Punisher at SDCC 2010
http://themovieblog.com/2010/07/marv...unisher-rights
http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/07/26...-the-punisher/
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...nisher-movies/

[Galactus]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

even moreso since its under the Marvel/Disney Juggernaut.

[MeLikeJinx]

Am I the only one that thought FF: Rise of The Silver Surfer was awesome? LOL. IMO they need to complete the Fantastic Four trilogy before they start making more obscure Marvel character movies. Plus, Chris Evans is a legit star now, so even more reason to make another FF movie.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

actually, your wrong. Punisher War Zone did come out in 2008, but Marvel Studios did not regain the Punisher movie License Untill 2010. I remember that specifically because they announced that at the 2010 SDCC.
Heres the proof.
SDCC ’10 | Marvel Studios regains film rights for the Punisher | Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources – Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment
Wikipedia and IMDB arent trustworthy websites because anybody and everybody can edit their information.
If you google "Marvel Studios Regains Punisher Rights", you'll find every article taking place in or after July 2010, with later articles reporting that Marvel Studios also regained the rights to Blade
I will admit that I was wrong about Valhalla. I just grabbed the first company I saw on the Wikipedia website.

that being said, if you do look at the Marvel Studios wikipedia page, it lists Punisher Warzone under Coproductions, which are movies made outside of Marvel Studios primary involvement. includes such films as the x-men films, F4 films, Spiderman trilogy, Daredevil. Thats why those films say "Marvel" in the opening, not "Marvel Studios"

The Five In-House Films they have done, Incredible Hulk Ironman Ironman2 Captain America and Thor, haave all been good movies. But Marvel Studios did not solely make Punisher Warzone, much like they didnt soley make Spiderman or X-Men

Edit : Heres some more links about Marvel regaining Punisher at SDCC 2010
Marvel regains Punisher Rights - The Movie Blog
SDCC: Marvel Regains Film Rights for 'The Punisher' - The Moviefone Blog
Marvel Studios To Make More Punisher Movies? - G4tv.com

Marvel had the Punisher rights, well shared them with Lionsgate(lionsgate had the rights to distro it). You'll notice on other sites that this announcement isn't news that they didn't already know. It wasn't news at the time either, and just reiterating a fact that was already true since prior to Warzone. Other outlets covered that with a 'How is this news' in their articles like bleedingcool and others did. It was just never formally stated. The rights reverted a few years after the first movie in the 2000s.

And yup marvel did help produce the film as much as they did the norton hulk (just they kept most of it under the Marvel Knights banner which is still marvel studios, but an adult oriented division, that's why it's considered the first under those two labels). They just prefer that not be on their track record as it's an adult film. We're going to just have to agree to disagree though on this, because neither of us are going to change the other's mind. You need to look farther back on the rights reverting though and through lionsgate not valhalla. That's just when it was announced at a con(SDCC2010), not when it actually happened(which was prior to warzone being made). It wasn't valhalla that had the rights, it was lionsgate that was sharing them with marvel(as part of a distro contract).

Essentially, it's a propaganda campaign to shovel off the lone mistake in Marvel Studio's track record. Look for links that talk about it that'd be more in the know like comic sites are. There's a reason it was only picked up as 'major news' from those that don't follow the contracts, but again it was just a comment at a con that didn't say when they re-acquired the rights, just that they had the rights which fans should have already known.

You'll also notice a follow up piece in 2011 saying Marvel regained Punisher and Blade movie rights. Now blade I'm unsure of as I don't know the contract stipulations, but if July 2011 is when they got the punisher rights back... How does that make 2010 the year it happened? It doesn't. Just like 2010 isn't the year it happened either. Punisher just typically gets ignored in the news barring some places that are anal about it like CBR, BC, and a few other places.
Ed Norton hulk was also made by valhalla with marvel studios, this time not under the marvel knights banner. So credit for it should go to valhalla as much as much as marvel studios. Hulk wasn't the first in-house made movie. Otherwise, why is Valhalla able to take credit for it(see the same page above on valhalla's official site)? Both are marked as made in association with. (It's even in both film's credits.) Not all of lionsgate films had marvel co-production. This one is considered the first marvel studios picture, though they'd prefer no one remember that. Other Lionsgate features that had Marvel hands on help were the direct to dvd animated ones. Man-thing is the only one marvel didn't touch afaik. The difference with Incredible Hulk (which is also valhalla made) is that marvel retained the rights on who got to distro it over punisher. The rights reverting on punisher just refer to that small fact, not who made the film.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/07/...talking-about/
http://www.pep.ph/guide/movies/3377/...er-in-war-zone

Punisher also won't be getting a new movie, he's slated for a potential live action tv series instead through Disney/Marvel. Warzone is a blemish they don't want to repeat. Even if they can just offhand it to touchstone pictures and use them as an excuse.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx

Am I the only one that thought FF: Rise of The Silver Surfer was awesome? LOL. IMO they need to complete the Fantastic Four trilogy before they start making more obscure Marvel character movies. Plus, Chris Evans is a legit star now, so even more reason to make another FF movie.

I can find you a botleg of the unreleased Roger Corman FF movie.
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