[Optimus Vader]

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Originally Posted by conan050

Hey, do you have a link to that EBay seller with the Loki re-paint!?!?

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Originally Posted by StarWarsPaul

viperskingdom | eBay

That's the guy.

Here's a link to Loki

Make an offer of $10 and it'll be accepted.

[conan050]

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Originally Posted by Optimus Vader

That's the guy.

Here's a link to Loki

Make an offer of $10 and it'll be accepted.

Sweet, thanks!

[Jimmyo]

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Originally Posted by bmorr

Paint it white and use it for moon knight. He uses one in the comics.

I might grab a 2nd one as I have seen the copter on it's own in another store along with a spideycar.

It's a shame that the Avengers Quinjet was only a 1 seater. Companies need to go whole hog on vehicles or just not bother as the half arsed attempts don't do anyone any favors.

Playmates have the right Idea with the Turtles playset, we have a batcave from "The Batman" that we are going to splice onto it to make a larger avengers mansion cavern

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Symbiote

Very nice and clean looking. That Indiana Jones figure looks great with MU guys. Spider-woman looks like she about to take a...

Right on Commander Rogers' boot too! Err, not that I meant for it to seem like that or anything. It's just the angle, yeah that's it.


Some AIM appreciation.


And another bike shot until I get around to adding it to my customs indepth.

[D Day]

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Originally Posted by Peteparker

This is EXACTLY why I asked how the rev case figures are chosen. It's all fucked up! We're getting Falcons and Absorbing Man when NO ONE wants more of those.

They started to say they look at what figures sold and what's still on shelves, but in the end they said it's completely random!

Fucktards! Solid Vision! Blade! Check ebay, you doofs!

You know every other company that sells a product does site visits where the send reps into actual stores to see how stuff is selling, make sure the display looks good, make sure that if there isn't product on the shelves and if there isn't get it ordered and on its way, or find out what the deal is. How do I know? Because I've done it.

So why is hasbro apparently not doing this?? If they were they certainly wouldn't be repacking falcon! That's a basic practice of companies to maximize profits, and ensure if there is a product people desire make more and sell more, again, maximizing profits.

The conversation you had with whoever it was at the con was, for a while anyway, hope inspiring. Giving them a list of rares, them trying to explain distro issues, for a minute felt like they would actually fix something.

But my gut tells me it's lip service. It seems like they don't give a shit, telling you the case assortment is random is tantamount to saying, "we are gonna make these products, but we don't really care if it's something you want or if it actually sells or not".

Hasbro is a big company with their hands in a lot of different pots, so I gather it could be difficult to track it all, but where there's a will there's a way.

Pre retaliation joes, walking into my 4 area Walmarts and there not being one gi joe figure on the pegs is just plain stupid, a lack of effort on everyone's part.

I do appreciate the Rogue/Longshot pack coming out, but really? One more wolvie? Come on man!

[Jimmyo]

The savage frost giant and Loki packs (the massive figures) are those out of stores now or do they sit and pegwarm like sentinels?

[GERRILLIUS]

The gigantic battles?

Those were exclusives to walmart. I feel like they barely pegwarmed - temporarily. Either way, of the 10billion walmarts around me there are none to be found.
Even sentinels aren't around anymore at WM or TRU in my immediate area.

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Originally Posted by Jimmyo

The savage frost giant and Loki packs (the massive figures) are those out of stores now or do they sit and pegwarm like sentinels?

[Jimmyo]

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Originally Posted by GERRILLIUS

The gigantic battles?

Those were exclusives to walmart. I feel like they barely pegwarmed - temporarily. Either way, of the 10billion walmarts around me there are none to be found.
Even sentinels aren't around anymore at WM or TRU in my immediate area.

Thanks for the reply,

I will keep searching evilbay for a price thats easier to stomach lol

[synapse17]

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Originally Posted by D Day

You know every other company that sells a product does site visits where the send reps into actual stores to see how stuff is selling, make sure the display looks good, make sure that if there isn't product on the shelves and if there isn't get it ordered and on its way, or find out what the deal is. How do I know? Because I've done it.

So why is hasbro apparently not doing this?? If they were they certainly wouldn't be repacking falcon! That's a basic practice of companies to maximize profits, and ensure if there is a product people desire make more and sell more, again, maximizing profits.

The conversation you had with whoever it was at the con was, for a while anyway, hope inspiring. Giving them a list of rares, them trying to explain distro issues, for a minute felt like they would actually fix something.

But my gut tells me it's lip service. It seems like they don't give a shit, telling you the case assortment is random is tantamount to saying, "we are gonna make these products, but we don't really care if it's something you want or if it actually sells or not".

Hasbro is a big company with their hands in a lot of different pots, so I gather it could be difficult to track it all, but where there's a will there's a way.

Pre retaliation joes, walking into my 4 area Walmarts and there not being one gi joe figure on the pegs is just plain stupid, a lack of effort on everyone's part.

I do appreciate the Rogue/Longshot pack coming out, but really? One more wolvie? Come on man!

I don't think we can ever expect Hasbro to do anymore than what they do now. Like you said, they only seem to give us lip service while ignoring the obvious distribution problems and blaming retail outlets for anything that goes wrong. I'm sure they have tons of statistics and year to year data that they use to try and project future sales, but seem completely unable to look outside the box.

When I was a kid I remember there being a much larger Marvel presence in stores. Now maybe I'm wrong, but I remember in the early 90's there being large sections of ails devoted to the different lines of the day. X-Men, X-Force, and the general line that carried characters like Spider-Man Punisher, Iron-Man and so on. There would be multiple waves available at my local TRU and for years I could go in and get most any figure my allowance would allow. Some where hard to find but for the most part they were all there, and I had to choice which ones I wanted that week or month.

I didn't decide to start collecting ML until after wave 3 with Magneto, Wolverine, and Thor and even at that point I could still find all the characters from wave 1 and 2 at retail.

Hasbro is not going to change. They will never start a subscription or online collectors club. They will not make any adjustments according to our wishes or thoughts. We are not valued. We all know that they see kids as their primary demographic and they will continue to think of us as the cherry on top. Not something you go to the ice cream store for but a little bonus.

The way I deal with this is to pre-order when I can afford it and fill in from there. To think of all the money that is made by online retailers and third parties just because their product has little to no presence in stores is mind baffling to me. I don't hunt at all anymore. It's just to time consuming and expensive to bother when you always come up empty handed.

Hasbro is by far the worst when it comes to in store presences. I mean year after year all their lines seem to shrink from store shelves. And when it comes to cutting corners and customer relations, I view them as being terrible. I have no expectations of them and can't for the life of me understand why they even bother doing Q&A at conventions, when all they ever say is the disingenuous "will look into that."

I see us having two options, stick it out and deal with all the problems or quit altogether.

[MGTAJ]

The biggest problem with regards to distribution, in my opinion, is every single figure being stocked in the one "Marvel Universe" title. Retailers don't see that characters like Absorbing Man, Falcon and Spidey/Thor/Cap etc are pegwarming on their system and they can't re-order specific characters from Hasbro because of their stocking systems and due to the way Hasbro sells to retailers. Until that is sorted, MU will always be the way it is...

The other problem is severe lack of distribution to overseas markets, it's horrendous here in the UK, but I've long accepted that we are an afterthought that only get's occasional scraps.

[D Day]

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Originally Posted by synapse17

Hasbro is not going to change. They will never start a subscription or online collectors club. They will not make any adjustments according to our wishes or thoughts. We are not valued. We all know that they see kids as their primary demographic and they will continue to think of us as the cherry on top. Not something you go to the ice cream store for but a little bonus.

I've been told hasbrotoyshop is not actually hasbro affiliated, is this true?

If so they could start their own easy enough, if not then they could sell through the site without starting a subscription service or collectors club, and fuck scalpers at the same time.

They could still have their shitty case assortments and send those to stores and moms and dads would still buy them for their precious little snowflakes who they made the mistake of taking down the toy isle.

But then, they could make say a case of 1 or 2 hundred for exclusive selling online, limit them to 2 per customer, and when they get down to 50 or 25 left, make another run, if stuff gets stagnant and doesn't sell dole it out to the Ross's and the like and that's it for that figure. Maybe slip it in a revision case for stores if u really feel the need.

This would not only make Hasbro more money (that they are loosing on the secondary market anyway to scalpers) but it would help true collectors, and simultaneously fuck scalpers over. Who may feel the need to make multiple accounts and buy figs they think would be sought after, but since we could all get the same figs anyway we wouldn't need to result to scalpers.

All this without the need to have a subscription service or collectors club, which would incur extra costs to set up and maintain.

And it's not like the president doesn't exist for making cases of a single figure with subscription exclusives and mail aways, which they could also continue to do.

[wolverine2281]

HTS is owned by hasbro

[synapse17]

I would love that D-Day, but Hasbro seems completely unwilling to do anything outside their standard way of doing business. I don't see them doing anything in the future that would make any of what you said posable.

The company has some great talent working in the design area, but shit for brains in just about every-other area. I have no faith in Hasbro. When this line ends it will be two sided for me. I will miss the figures but love the fact that I'm no longer paying for incompetent management mismanaging a line I know could have been much better. I will move on with my life. And probable stop collecting altogether.

I hope to shit I'm wrong, but it's hard to imagine I'm not.

[Symbiote]

Greenskar and I scored these at tru. Now go get em guys. Tru exclusives.



We literally high fived in the aisle.

[denmasterprime]

I'll still take Hasbro over Mattel. Hasbro has shined in action figures. Articulation, sculpting and even paint applications have progressed on their products. Look at any boys line out there and look at where they were 5-10 years ago. Swivel-arm battle grip was new and amazing! O-rings? Gimme! Look at us now with wrist and ankle articulation! Accross Star Wars, GI Joe and Marvel the figures have improved in EVERY way. And while there have been some backwards steps in a wave (no ankle articulation or smaller with Transformers) there is always one figure with everything or coming in the next wave as an offset . Mattel has some good sculpting and adequate paint but the paint is helped by absolutely minimal articulation and garbage character selection. This is for the 3 3/4 scale only. Not ragging on 6 inch.

[Veronica Mars]

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Originally Posted by Symbiote

Greenskar and I scored these at tru. Now go get em guys. Tru exclusives.



We literally high fived in the aisle.

Congrats, it's a nice idea and I will go check my tru but I'm not getting my hopes up, i live in the hasbro bermuda triangle, things get shipped in, but no one ever sees them

[jaybird7072]

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Originally Posted by Symbiote

Greenskar and I scored these at tru. Now go get em guys. Tru exclusives.



We literally high fived in the aisle.

Niceee.

[D Day]

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Originally Posted by Veronica Mars

Congrats, it's a nice idea and I will go check my tru but I'm not getting my hopes up, i live in the hasbro bermuda triangle, things get shipped in, but no one ever sees them

I second that emotion

[Jimmyo]

You look like the cat who got the cream

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by Symbiote

Greenskar and I scored these at tru. Now go get em guys. Tru exclusives.



We literally high fived in the aisle.

Did they have more there? Or did you guys grab the last one? Very nice score!!! And what a looker you are Symbiote Whoa and they're TRU exclusives dang...

[D Day]

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Originally Posted by synapse17

I would love that D-Day, but Hasbro seems completely unwilling to do anything outside their standard way of doing business. I don't see them doing anything in the future that would make any of what you said posable.

The company has some great talent working in the design area, but shit for brains in just about every-other area. I have no faith in Hasbro. When this line ends it will be two sided for me. I will miss the figures but love the fact that I'm no longer paying for incompetent management mismanaging a line I know could have been much better. I will move on with my life. And probable stop collecting altogether.

I hope to shit I'm wrong, but it's hard to imagine I'm not.

Yeah I'm not trying to just be completely negative either, we have gotten some amazing products out of them which arewell beyond other previous marvel toy lines and Other action figures that are on the market. Of course not every figure is a win, but most are.

My gripes are generated by not being able to buy their awesome products always because dickbag scalpers with nothing better to do beat me too them.

Another idea I had was that with my proposed selling model, they could still offer the retailers exclusives, and ship them too them, but allocate some to the HTS site exclusives, with the same 2 per limit, and kick a percentage to whatever store that particular exclusive was branded as.

The beauty of all of this is that the would truly have a gauge of what sells and what doesn't, and adjust product development accordingly.

[D Day]

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Originally Posted by Symbiote

Greenskar and I scored these at tru. Now go get em guys.

We literally high fived in the aisle.

Great score, I'll be hitting the streets, don't care about the rhino repack pack, but that FF pack is boss!

[Peteparker]

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Originally Posted by vampireheart

I just caved and bought the SDCC Helicarrier from HTS. Man, where am I gonna put this monstrosity lol

Common problem with no real solution. I'd like to see someone make a coffee table out of it...

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Originally Posted by jdrums

Nice Haul, J!

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Originally Posted by D Day

The conversation you had with whoever it was at the con was, for a while anyway, hope inspiring. Giving them a list of rares, them trying to explain distro issues, for a minute felt like they would actually fix something.

But my gut tells me it's lip service. It seems like they don't give a shit, telling you the case assortment is random is tantamount to saying, "we are gonna make these products, but we don't really care if it's something you want or if it actually sells or not"...

I do appreciate the Rogue/Longshot pack coming out, but really? One more wolvie? Come on man!

Thanks, I'm glad I had the opportunity to ask something someone else cares about as well.

I hate to think it's true, but I think you're right. Not only are the rev case selections random, but they don't give a shit about the fact that it is either. Wouldn't it be nice if fans could put in requests for future rev cases? Even one slot would make all the difference.

I'd appreciate another Wolvie if it was COMPLETELY different. AoA maybe?

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Originally Posted by Jimmyo

The savage frost giant and Loki packs (the massive figures) are those out of stores now or do they sit and pegwarm like sentinels?

Both are out of stores. The one Gigantic Battles that majorly clearanced was Black Goliath. Saw that guy for like $12 maybe 20 times.

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Originally Posted by synapse17

I don't think we can ever expect Hasbro to do anymore than what they do now. Like you said, they only seem to give us lip service while ignoring the obvious distribution problems and blaming retail outlets for anything that goes wrong. I'm sure they have tons of statistics and year to year data that they use to try and project future sales, but seem completely unable to look outside the box...

Hasbro is not going to change. They will never start a subscription or online collectors club. They will not make any adjustments according to our wishes or thoughts. We are not valued. We all know that they see kids as their primary demographic and they will continue to think of us as the cherry on top. Not something you go to the ice cream store for but a little bonus.

The way I deal with this is to pre-order when I can afford it and fill in from there...

I see us having two options, stick it out and deal with all the problems or quit altogether.

The way I deal with it is to buy all clearance figures as I find them, and attempt to always get all of the figures I can for as cheap as humanly possible. This knocks pre-ordering out of the running, unfortunately, and leads to a lot of foot work, but the feeling that I'm getting the best deal possible is important to me.

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Originally Posted by MGTAJ

The biggest problem with regards to distribution, in my opinion, is every single figure being stocked in the one "Marvel Universe" title. Retailers don't see that characters like Absorbing Man, Falcon and Spidey/Thor/Cap etc are pegwarming on their system and they can't re-order specific characters from Hasbro because of their stocking systems and due to the way Hasbro sells to retailers. Until that is sorted, MU will always be the way it is...

The other problem is severe lack of distribution to overseas markets, it's horrendous here in the UK, but I've long accepted that we are an afterthought that only get's occasional scraps.

Distribution is screwed up, especially this year. And while it was nice to hear Dwight Stall apologize for it twice in person, he sure didn't make the same apology in the panel itself.

It likely won't change, but I'll sure as hell keep asking for it to.

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Originally Posted by wolverine2281

HTS is owned by hasbro

Only owned, not operated. Like shareholders who own Disney or Microsoft. They get to expect and ask for certain results, but aren't really in a position to tell them how to run their business (unless they're going to fail in that business).

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Originally Posted by Symbiote

Greenskar and I scored these at tru. Now go get em guys. Tru exclusives.
We literally high fived in the aisle.

Dammit guys! I don't have time to leave work after being on vacation for a week! Fine, I will anyways.

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Originally Posted by Exodus

Did they have more there? Or did you guys grab the last one? Very nice score!!! And what a looker you are Symbiote Whoa and they're TRU exclusives dang...

That's actually Greenskar. I met both of these wonderful gents in SD this year. Now I can actually recognize a fellow arker!

[mindmeldx]

AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the hero of the day is SYMBIOTE!!! Got my MOE pack dude! Awesome set! Shocked that it made it from San Diego all the way to NY in two days. Thanks again bro! And sweet pick ups btw.

[mindmeldx]

heres the pic!